• @[email protected]
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    4611 months ago

    And even the rare case of transition regret, it’s usually because 1. lack of peer group, 2. social condemnation and 3. your family now hates you.

    Not because of the procedure, but because of the assholes around you. (This by one older Swedish study on the subject).

    It’s a literal miracle cure. Any sane doctor would jump for it.

    • Norah - She/They
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      811 months ago

      Even when it is the procedure, it is generally due to poor results, not the decision to have the surgery to begin with.

      • darq
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        Worth noting that particular subreddit appears to be pretty heavily astroturfed. To the point where some detransitioners created r/actualdetrans to get away from the TERFs.

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        It’s unlikely the people who detransition because of it would be active on a detrans subreddit, because they would still consider themselves trans, and would instead be in trans subreddits for support.

        The three reasons the other commenter mentioned was taken from studies done on the subject.

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          It’s unlikely the people who detransition because of it

          Because of what? I don’t understand what you’re trying to communicate.

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          “Back in 1997, virtually no one had heard of queergender people. I couldn’t find a support system, and I couldn’t figure out how to tell people what I was.”

          That would be a big discrepency. The denizens of /r/detrans generally post about contemporary detransitioning rather than detransitions from 25 years ago.

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            311 months ago

            I’m sorry, but if you think that there aren’t huge portions of the trans population who have no support system, then it doesn’t really feel possible to have a meaningful discussion about this with you.

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              if you think that there aren’t huge portions of the trans population who have no support system

              Huge portions of the trans population having no support system doesn’t imply that reasons for detransitioning will include not having a support system because the lack of a support system alters the likelihood of transitioning in the first place.

              if you think that there aren’t huge portions of the trans population who have no support system, it doesn’t really feel possible to have a meaningful discussion about this with you

              I don’t think that and it doesn’t make sense to assume or even suspect I do, given anything I’ve said. I’ve no idea why you’ve introduced this idea into the conversation.

              And even if I were to think that, what you’ve said doesn’t invalidate what I said, which was that having seen /r/detrans, the reasons given seemed silly.

              Clearly it is indeed not possible for us to have a meaningful discussion.

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                211 months ago

                I’m not saying it implies that. I’m saying that trans people and established research both say that. Your minimal experience with one of the detrans subreddits is not more substantial of a source than first hand accounts and peer reviewed papers.

                Did you spend substantial time in /r/detrans and /r/actualdetrans? Were you aware of drama around when that split happened? Discussed it in the other trans communities on the sites? Because right now, your comments make it seem like you’re a passerby who has popped into a trans community and tried to say that your interactions with one community known for astroturfing are more meaningful than decades of research.

                • @[email protected]
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                  111 months ago

                  Your minimal experience with one of the detrans subreddits is not more substantial of a source than first hand accounts and peer reviewed papers.

                  I haven’t claimed that it is.

                  more meaningful

                  What do you mean?