Dave Chappelle has released a new Netflix special, The Dreamer, which is full of jokes about the trans community and disabled people.
“I love punching down!” he tells the audience, in a one-hour show that landed on the streaming service today (31 December).
It’s his seventh special for Netflix and comes two years after his last one, the highly controversial release The Closer.
That programme was criticised for its relentless jokes about the trans community, and Chappelle revisits the topic in his new show.
He tells jokes about trans women in prison, and about trans people “pretending” to be somebody they are not.
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Have you watched it? The actual thing?
No, they haven’t. They just want to belong to a team.
I’ll be a Chapelle fan then.
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Actually supporting human rights for all is being a trans ally. Getting some laughs in at the expense of trans folks is not being a trans ally. There is a transitive property mental exercise here.
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They are jokes. He is a comedian. Or should we cancel every comedian that is not 100% PC?
No need to answer though, I am pretty sure I know what is your stance on this.
Bullshit apologism.
Functionally zero comedians actually think being shitty to minorities is part of their job. It was an excuse invented and adopted by people who think dogshit views are acceptable if you sprinkle humor on them.
Exactly the alarmist, pearl clutching nonsense you’re trying to accuse other people of. Seen any of Jimmy Carr’s standup? He hosts multiple light entertainment shows.
Fuck, this Chapelles second Netflix special so who exactly who has been cancelled for “not being 100% PC”?
The reality is that vulnerable groups can absolutely tell the difference between jokes and elaborate setups for bigotry. Dave Chapelle built an entire career out of it.
The person who apparently can’t tell the difference is you.
If you think that way, stop watching it, as I am sure you already did, and so many other people.
Now, if I do watch it and find it decent or even great, does that mean I am a transphobe?1
Yeah thanks for the sage advice grandad but we’re all perfectly aware that we don’t have to watch Netflix specials if we don’t want to.
Yet despite Chapelle’s specials and Hitler’s speeches not being mandatory viewing just yet, we can nevertheless discuss the men, their rhetoric and the broader impact that rhetoric has on individuals and society in general.
Are you sure you didn’t mean “just ignore it so nobody has this conversation in public where someone might change someone’s mind”?
If people discussing transphobia in mainstream media bothers you, you can just not look at it, right? But here you are, sharing your opinions about people sharing their opinions.
You can be politically incorrect without punching down.
Source: The Chappelle’s Show.
If he were merely telling unfunny, inoffensive jokes, people would stop listening. But people wouldn’t call that canceling; they’d just say that he used to be great and place the blame on his shoulders. But because it’s unfunny, offensive jokes, it’s suddenly the audience’s fault for walking away.
Don’t blame the audience for refusing to listen to him. It’s his job to draw people in, and it’s his fault if he fails to do so.
That’s fine for not liking his content. That’s exactly what you should do, watch something else.
Now, to put everything into good vs bad, and say he “wants to kill us”, and that by enjoying Chapelle’s (which I don’t even like so much these days) content you are automatically transphobe.
There’s a very politically incorrect comedian I follow. There’s one key difference however: he isn’t an asshole.
And why is Chapelle an asshole? The transgender person above is crying because everything is either black or white and make everything about them, and this constant woke persecution is just exhausting. But I guess that is the norm with Lemmy, everything that you say that is not left wing is immediatly downvoted, lmao
Alternatively, you could have just also said: “Why don’t you let us joke about you being disgusting freaks in peace?”, but I doubt you have the self-awareness.
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Save us the displeasure of having to deal with your presence.
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This is what I meant, if you like Dave Chapelle is because you are transphobic evil, no inbetween, everything is black or white.
But here we are, once again. Suddenly I find transgender people “disgusting freaks”.
You’re either transphobic or ok with going along with someone who’s transphobic. They don’t care the difference. Or you think he’s not transphobic, and I’d say you’re naive. He’s made it very clear he’s not poking fun or exaggerating anything. He doesn’t acknowledge trans women as women. These are statements not bits. Mind boggling all the more that his grandparents would have been subject to the same kind of hatred based on their race being inferior to whites in many of the same ways Trans people are being discriminated today.