• @NatakuNox
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    -1211 months ago

    Just wrong. You only drift off if you are unaware that you are suffocating! The person being executed is fully aware that they are dying via suffocation. That person is going to be in full panic mode trying to get as much air into their lungs as possible.

    • @[email protected]
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      1511 months ago

      Pure nitrogen gas is a significant industrial hazard for the reasons you stated. There is sure to be an element of panic since they are aware that they are being executed. That is going to be true whether the execution is being done via hypoxia, injection, or firing squad.

      I suppose it depends on your exact definition of suffocating. You will absolutely be able to take full, satisfying breaths the entire time. If you do not tell them when the gas is turned on, even knowing that it’s coming, they would be unlikely to even notice.

      While there are no clinical studies (for obvious reasons), there is footage of industrial accidents. It seems that people succumb VERY quickly, possibly on their first full breath.

      Most debates around execution methods are about the method itself. They typically exclude the morality and cruelty of the idea of a death penalty in general. I don’t think this one can be separated, though. The concern is that it’s untested for executions, but the only way to test it is to use it for executions. There is ample evidence of its use on livestock, but this is of limited value for humans.

      As a side note, no medical doctors can be involved with executions. It’s a direct violation of the Hippocratic Oath.

      • @NatakuNox
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        -211 months ago

        How do you source that? If people actually cared about quick and painless we’d just go back to beheadings. But it’s not for the person being executed. It’s so people can feel good about themselves when it’s done.

        • @LowtierComputer
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          411 months ago

          Have you experienced the effects of nitrogen? I’m asking where you got that info from. There are videos of the use of nitrogen on animals.

          Those videos do not match what you are describing.

          • @afraid_of_zombies
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            211 months ago

            Well I have seen someone nearly die from it and according to him he was just tired and spacing out.

            • @LowtierComputer
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              211 months ago

              Same. Diving tank fill accident near Wilmington, NC. Just like CO, they had basically no idea. Not even the headache that CO gives you.

      • @werefreeatlast
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        111 months ago

        The previous statement requires faith. Otherwise it would probably be true.