• FiveMacs
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    011 months ago

    Push start is much easier to steal then non push start.

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        11 months ago

        Mimic signal of the wireless key fob and you have a new car. I don’t know the technical aspects since Im not a criminal but I’m sure I could get into many cars near me for under $50 and a few hours of research if I really tried.

        Physical locks are actually more work, make more sound and damage the product they hope to sell. Wireless is inherently bad for security especially since the companies don’t actually care, and why should they?

        • @tux7350
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          Lol naw dude, don’t sit there and just act like you can spoof a wireless signal like that. I call bullshit, if it was that easy everyone would do it. Go on then, it’s only $50 and a couple hours of your time. Not much in the grand scheme of things to prove an internet guy wrong right? Besides think of what you could do with all your new cars! /s

          • @[email protected]
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            111 months ago

            The dude is kinda right. If you Google relay attacks, they’re pretty simple to execute with the right equipment, and I don’t think the right equipment is especially hard to get. It’s not exactly off-the-shelf, but it’s also not exactly hard to get RF antenna and transmitters. All you’re doing is extending the range of the key fob.

        • @kn33
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          11 months ago

          The “mimic” you’re talking about is called a replay attack, and those have been prevented for a long time with rolling codes.

          • @[email protected]
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            111 months ago

            It’s not, it’s a relay attack. Someone stands near your keys with a receiver, and they relay the signal to a transmitter near the car. It works because it’s the actual signal from your keys.

            Never keep your keys near your door, unless they’re in an RF shielded holder.

        • @StephniBefni
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          411 months ago

          Yeah but the physical cylinders on the hyundais are what’s compromised and easily accessed, the push start doesn’t have that same vulnerability.

        • Dog
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          111 months ago

          $5 and a Key Start vehicle would be all I needed to do one. Not that I’m ever gonna do it.

    • @hardaysknight
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      111 months ago

      You’re talking out of your ass dude

      • FiveMacs
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        It’s so much easier to mimic/copy your car keys wireless then it is the key itself.

        Regardless of push start or not, of someone wants your car, it’s theirs.

        • @hardaysknight
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          211 months ago

          it’s so much easier to mimic/copy your car keys wireless then it is the key itself

          Except it’s totally not.