Also, it sucks that many PHd programs limit that amount of time you can be employed. I would love to pursue doctorate if 1/ I could afford it 2/ do it while keeping my job.
If you know the field well enough to add to it and can defend your dissertation, you have earned your degree.
The full time job requirements are to limit the pool of applicants to the rich and those desperate enough to kiss however many rings and assholes demanded.
Einstein worked while pursuing his Ph.D. Think of the advances people with that philosophy have denied the world.
If you can do that, absolutely! But, I don’t think the vast majority can. Maybe I’m wrong, but I don’t think so.
The requirements are there so that the time spent advising and laying students goes to those who will be most productive and are most serious about it. It has nothing to do with wanting rich people or brown nosers.
Why is a trust fund kid who can spend years working on a degree unproductively more serious than a person juggling a job and kids?
One of those can get multiple Ph.D.s and the other can’t get into school - regardless of how much insight the experience of a well rounded life brings to the research.
Shouldn’t writing a PHD be a paid position to begin with? One where the uni pays the person getting the PHD. It at least relatively commonly is here in Germany, especially if the field needs capable researchers.
Absolutely! Phd students should be paid. In my country and Field (Engineering/Sciences in the US) basically everyone is paid. Not as well as they ought to be, but still paid. If you are seeking a PhD and aren’t getting paid… someone is telling you you shouldn’t get a PhD…
Why would you say this? Because you perhaps weren’t afforded the same flexibility or accommodations in pursuing your own higher degree and so now would work to deny others?
I say this because I don’t think it is too big of a thing to be completed in spare time after a full time job. And I think a PhD should be a big thing.
Most PhD positions are really time flexible already. Certainly there are exceptions but academia in general is time flexible and PhDs are no different. But they do require a good amount of time because contributing to the sum total of all human knowledge is a big thing and takes time.
If only college education wasn’t that expensive…
Also, it sucks that many PHd programs limit that amount of time you can be employed. I would love to pursue doctorate if 1/ I could afford it 2/ do it while keeping my job.
I don’t think a PhD is or should be possible with a full time job. Maybe for truly exceptional individuals.
Maybe some moonlighting would be okay.
If you know the field well enough to add to it and can defend your dissertation, you have earned your degree.
The full time job requirements are to limit the pool of applicants to the rich and those desperate enough to kiss however many rings and assholes demanded.
Einstein worked while pursuing his Ph.D. Think of the advances people with that philosophy have denied the world.
If you can do that, absolutely! But, I don’t think the vast majority can. Maybe I’m wrong, but I don’t think so.
The requirements are there so that the time spent advising and laying students goes to those who will be most productive and are most serious about it. It has nothing to do with wanting rich people or brown nosers.
Why is a trust fund kid who can spend years working on a degree unproductively more serious than a person juggling a job and kids?
One of those can get multiple Ph.D.s and the other can’t get into school - regardless of how much insight the experience of a well rounded life brings to the research.
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Getting multiple PhDs doenst really make sense. I don’t know why someone would want to do that.
And you get paid for a PhD. Not well, but enough. Having a kid or family doesn’t keep you from it.
Now, before that, it’s a different story and some absolutely needs to be done about college costs in general.
It’s allowed in many countries.
Shouldn’t writing a PHD be a paid position to begin with? One where the uni pays the person getting the PHD. It at least relatively commonly is here in Germany, especially if the field needs capable researchers.
Absolutely! Phd students should be paid. In my country and Field (Engineering/Sciences in the US) basically everyone is paid. Not as well as they ought to be, but still paid. If you are seeking a PhD and aren’t getting paid… someone is telling you you shouldn’t get a PhD…
Why would you say this? Because you perhaps weren’t afforded the same flexibility or accommodations in pursuing your own higher degree and so now would work to deny others?
I say this because I don’t think it is too big of a thing to be completed in spare time after a full time job. And I think a PhD should be a big thing.
Most PhD positions are really time flexible already. Certainly there are exceptions but academia in general is time flexible and PhDs are no different. But they do require a good amount of time because contributing to the sum total of all human knowledge is a big thing and takes time.