Few issues with that. And let me preface all of this with: I do think “boomer” is a shit insult but I also don’t care since baby boomers can fuck right off for all they have done to humanity.
The use of the term as a derogatory one IS prejudice. If saying “Boomer” was not a negative term, it wouldn’t be used. Not sure what the equivalent to godwin’s law is, but it is comparable to the people who insist the n-word isn’t about black people and is only about the black people who are acting like n-words.
Also: “Karen” actually IS a rather problematic term with a lot of roots in misogyny. It very much is built around the idea that women shouldn’t complain and when they do they are just being contrary/annoying/nagging and so forth. I don’t think everyone who uses the term is a misogynist, but they are making the world a shittier place.
Also “Karen” in particular REALLY fucking sucks if that is your name.
The word has a definition. Its defined meaning of ‘born during this era’ is the only none bigoted means of use. Example of another word which is often used as a bigoted insult: “The plant’s growth was retarded by the lack of Sun light.” See if you can pick out the word so you can defend its use as an insult simply because it is in line with your bigotry.
That’s not what they said though. They were clearly meaning that tone and context are the difference between “my sister is gay” [neutral], “my sister is gay” [negative], and even “my sister is gay” [positive].
“The wedding i went to last weekend was gay” could mean two people of the same gender got married or it could mean that someone is mad that a man dressed nice and was involved in the planning of his wedding and you can usually tell based on tone.
I think you’re misinterpreting their point. Saying someone is gay isn’t an insult unless you mean it to be.
If you say that your homosexual friend is gay, that’s not bigotry. Because well they are gay, plus there’s nothing wrong with being gay. But if you say someone is gay just because they do something you dislike that is. Because you’ve used it as a negative term.
A: Bigotry is always wrong and we are expected to try to improve ourselves.
B: Some folk’s mileage may vary.
C: Some feel it is OK because they shall suffer no significant push back. Exactly like certain folks that mispronounced the name of a certain country in West Africa and applied to anyone visually similar in tone to the folks that were provided “Involuntary Lifelong Unpaid Internships” from said country, felt fine using it.
Few issues with that. And let me preface all of this with: I do think “boomer” is a shit insult but I also don’t care since baby boomers can fuck right off for all they have done to humanity.
The use of the term as a derogatory one IS prejudice. If saying “Boomer” was not a negative term, it wouldn’t be used. Not sure what the equivalent to godwin’s law is, but it is comparable to the people who insist the n-word isn’t about black people and is only about the black people who are acting like n-words.
Also: “Karen” actually IS a rather problematic term with a lot of roots in misogyny. It very much is built around the idea that women shouldn’t complain and when they do they are just being contrary/annoying/nagging and so forth. I don’t think everyone who uses the term is a misogynist, but they are making the world a shittier place.
Also “Karen” in particular REALLY fucking sucks if that is your name.
Yes some people use the terms as bigotry that happens with everything and shouldn’t be a reason to not use it.
Calling someone gay isn’t instantly bigotry. Context and tone* matters, and yes unfortunately in text tone doesn’t come across, but we do get context.
The word has a definition. Its defined meaning of ‘born during this era’ is the only none bigoted means of use. Example of another word which is often used as a bigoted insult: “The plant’s growth was retarded by the lack of Sun light.” See if you can pick out the word so you can defend its use as an insult simply because it is in line with your bigotry.
The word has many definitions, just like retard has multiple definitions. The context they are used changes them making them okay or not.
You’re clumping me together with people who use it incorrectly, you need a mirror to look in to see the bigot in this exchange.
… I did not have “And it is okay when I insult someone by calling them ‘gay’ depending on the context” on my bingo card for this thread.
Holy fuck
That’s not what they said though. They were clearly meaning that tone and context are the difference between “my sister is gay” [neutral], “my sister is gay” [negative], and even “my sister is gay” [positive].
“The wedding i went to last weekend was gay” could mean two people of the same gender got married or it could mean that someone is mad that a man dressed nice and was involved in the planning of his wedding and you can usually tell based on tone.
I think you’re misinterpreting their point. Saying someone is gay isn’t an insult unless you mean it to be.
If you say that your homosexual friend is gay, that’s not bigotry. Because well they are gay, plus there’s nothing wrong with being gay. But if you say someone is gay just because they do something you dislike that is. Because you’ve used it as a negative term.
Who said insulting? My friend is trying out for drag race so I’m supporting them.
You’re being the bigot here.
A: Bigotry is always wrong and we are expected to try to improve ourselves.
B: Some folk’s mileage may vary.
C: Some feel it is OK because they shall suffer no significant push back. Exactly like certain folks that mispronounced the name of a certain country in West Africa and applied to anyone visually similar in tone to the folks that were provided “Involuntary Lifelong Unpaid Internships” from said country, felt fine using it.
Yup. Karen is as much a bigoted insult as boomer.