• @LufyCZ
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    106 months ago

    Yes god thank you.

    I thought I was going crazy, every single thread that’s even remotely (very remotely) connected to politics is full of this.

    I’m seriously worried for the platform, because this shit is going to turn people off hard.

    Even saw someone suggesting an assassination of a supreme court justice AND PEOPLE WERE FUCKING DEFENDING IT. The mods removed the comment luckily, but I still managed to get like 30 downvotes on a “don’t suggest assassinations, be better than them” comment, just check my history.

    We’re becoming fucking Truth Social or Parler or whatever of the left.

    • @TheFonz
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      56 months ago

      I feel like it’s too late for Lemmy. The echo chamber is already pretty strong. I hope I’m wrong.

      • HACKthePRISONS
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        the flagship instance is lemmy.ml

        the software is made by tankies.

        did you think this place was politically neutral? the whole fediverse is a fuck you to the status quo.

        • @TheFonz
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          126 months ago

          To be honest, I have nothing against socialists. I consider myself a soc Dem. I have many friends that are socialists. My issue is with how shallow and superficial the conversation is. Of your whole world thesis starts and ends with class warfare, there simply isn’t much to discuss. There are no prescriptions- just empty rhetoric. At the end of the say it’s horseshoe anti-establishment.

            • @TheFonz
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              106 months ago

              Why don’t you provide counterargument. Or interesting conversation. Anything to instill that it’s not just performative art form you guys.

              • HACKthePRISONS
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                this is some sealion shit. horseshoe theory is some middle school history class bullshit.

                • @Telodzrum
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                  26 months ago

                  Everything comes back to class with you people, doesn’t it?

                  • Sybil
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                    16 months ago

                    bu dum tss

              • HACKthePRISONS
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                performance art is a better use of time than shitting on people who challenges the status quo

                • @[email protected]
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                  46 months ago

                  The problem is that you’re not actually contributing to the discussion. You’re just parroting talking points and actively turning people away from your stance by being annoying.

                  It’s not super dissimilar to what the trump cultists do.

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                  Removed by mod

      • @LufyCZ
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        26 months ago

        I’m trying to break through the echo chamber whenever I come across it, but it’s a thankless endeavor, and I’m pretty close to giving up.

        • @TheFonz
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          66 months ago

          There’s dozens of us haha. I think more people are tired of the empty rhetoric because it’s not getting the same traction it used to. My suspicion is it’s like the same three people posting the same comment everywhere.

          • @LufyCZ
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            -26 months ago

            Hand in hand with bots, possibly. I really want lemmy to succeed though, only thing driving me forward. Ah well, people haven’t used their brains in the past, no reason to expect they will in the future…

              • @LufyCZ
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                -26 months ago

                Yeah, I’m afraid they are, that’s why I wrote that. What’s your point?

                  • @LufyCZ
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                    -46 months ago

                    Do you have any proof that there are none on Lemmy? Reddit was full of them, no reason to think Lemmy isn’t.

                    I’m also not saying there definitely are bots here, just that it’s a very real option.

                    Pick better battles mate.

    • @[email protected]
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      16 months ago

      I mean, I don’t advocate political assassinations, but I also recognize that the SC really doesn’t have any avenues for the people to remove a judge other than violence.

      A lot of problems would be solved if the people could call votes of no confidence.

      • @LufyCZ
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        16 months ago

        You can recognize it without suggesting anything, that’s completely fine in my book.

        And yeah agreed, it’s stupid that there’s no mechanism like that

      • @TheFonz
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        Can’t judges be impeached?

        Why are you downvoting? Judges can and have been impeached. The comment above implied this wasnt true.

        • @[email protected]
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          That’s not a mechanism the people control, especially with rampant gerrymandering by the GOP.

          • @TheFonz
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            26 months ago

            This is so uncharitable. There’s a reason for this mechanism and it’s not true. The Senate was a democratic majority just a few years ago so it’s not impossible. The issue is we are always holding on by a thin margin to either the house or Senate. I don’t think we should be advocating for assassinations on Lemmy or any platform.

            • @[email protected]
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              A supreme court justice requires a senate super majority to remove, and it’s never been done successfully.

              Again, I’m not advocating anything, but if a system of government is no longer representing the will of the people, actively working to hurt those people, and the people have no mechanism to peacefully recall a high ranking member of the government, especially a lifetime appointment, the only option left is violence.

              This is just a statement of fact.

              Honestly, I think the founding fathers did it intentionally.