I came across a post in a Michigan community that mentioned this, and i asked if it really happened because it seems so crazy that Republican collaborators would directly mail in fake documents saying Trump won states he lost and I hadn’t even really heard about it.

But this is exactly what happened, as I found out today after looking for more corroborating sources:

https://people.com/politics/forged-documents-declaring-trump-pence-winners-sent-to-national-archives/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_fake_electors_plot

Trump republicans in Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan, Arizona, Wisconsin, Nevada, and New Mexico forged false elector certificates and actually mailed in those forged electoral certificates to the national archives, that were examined and found to be forgeries, with trump, Rudy Giuliani and John Eastman as the ring leaders calling hundreds of Republicans to ask them to directly commit election fraud and forgery.

Some of them said yes. A bunch of them said yes, actually.

  • @Aceticon
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    Aren’t Fraud and Forgery actual crimes in the US?!

    • ZahzenEclipse
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      The current right wing talking point is its not fraud because it wasn’t successful lol. Even if it was successful, it still wasn’t fraud because trump believed the election was stolen from him. Oh and state legislator can pick any electors they want at anytime.

      It’s ridiculous

      • @pivot_root
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        1 year ago

        “That didn’t happen.
        And if it did, it wasn’t fraud.
        And if it was, it didn’t work.
        And if it had, it would be justified.
        And if it wasn’t, legislators could elect anyone.
        And if they did, we would be right.”

        Aside from the last line, it fits The Narcissist’s Prayer pretty well.

      • Track_Shovel
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        161 year ago

        I didn’t murder him! I only took a contract out on his life! The hitman got arrested before he even hurt the guy! I’m INNOCENT!

      • @[email protected]
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        11 year ago

        The only crimes that aren’t punishable are suicide and coup d’etat… If successful. I guess people forgot that last bit. Too bad there wasn’t more attempted suicide amongst these guys.

    • @Cornelius_Wangenheim
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      Yes, it’s one of the many things Trump and his collaborators are being prosecuted for.

    • Atelopus-zeteki
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      IANAL, but yeah. And we should push our reps to ensure that the law is applied fairly.

    • @eran_morad
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      11 year ago

      Depends on who commits them.