• Snot Flickerman
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      3510 months ago

      Have you heard of this idea called “taxes?”

      More than that, are you familiar with the idea of taxes being spent on more than just bloated military and police?

      • GrayoxOP
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        3210 months ago

        Its easier, for most, to imagine the end of the world than the end of Capitalism.

        • Snot Flickerman
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          610 months ago

          A fan of Zizek film analysis? That’s definitely one of his positions, related to how much post-apocalyptic media still portrays capitalism in practice post-apocalypse.

          • GrayoxOP
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            410 months ago

            Haven’t heard of em, I’ll have to check em out though!

            • Snot Flickerman
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              410 months ago

              Slavoj Zizek / Pervert’s Guide to Ideology / Pervert’s Guide to Cinema

              • Pleb
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                410 months ago

                Pervert’s Guide

                Sounds like I really should check this out.

      • @Bonskreeskreeskree
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        310 months ago

        Just curious, do you want everyone living in cookie cutter multifamily boxes or are people allowed to have houses and different size pieces of land and buildings in your utopia?

      • @spfhaar
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        010 months ago

        Tell me what type of society you are imagining please, in the real world it is already difficult for the average entrepreneur not to evade VAT on at least 30% of his purchases, because if we don’t talk about Nordic countries or Switzerland then I don’t see it feasible how people can accept even more interventions from the government in their lives.

      • @Cold_Brew_Enema
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        010 months ago

        Can you tell me how to get to the fantasy land you are living in where this is possible?

    • @Ensign_Crab
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      1410 months ago

      Questions no one ever asks about bailouts or the military.

      • themeatbridge
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        610 months ago

        If the money for the bailouts had been distributed to the people, we could have paid the mortgages to keep our houses and pay down the debt, AND saved the banks. Could you imagine?

        • @Ensign_Crab
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          310 months ago

          Could you imagine?

          We had a Democratic supermajority and a Democrat in the White House at the time. If it ever stood a chance of happening, it was then.

          And it wasn’t even considered.

          • themeatbridge
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            210 months ago

            Obama was a cool guy, but he wasn’t a progressive leader in the party. He couldn’t get congressional democrats to agree on pizza toppings, and the GOP was in lockstep to obstruct anything Obama or the democrats wanted to do.

            They also illegally held up senate confirmations, and then Kennedy got sick and died. It was still a missed opportunity for some genuine leadership. Sadly, Obama seemed to be suffering under the delusion that bipartisanship would be at all possible.

      • @[email protected]
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        410 months ago

        And?

        Do you have a cost analysis on giving everyone free housing? I’d wager it’s astronomically higher than bailouts or the military.

        • GrayoxOP
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          110 months ago

          Society should work towards a better life for all, not better profits for a few.

          • @[email protected]
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            410 months ago

            I don’t disagree, but that platitude has absolutely nothing to do with the discussion at hand.

            Your comic said to cancel all rent and mortgages and give everyone a house, which is not even remotely economically feasible.

            • GrayoxOP
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              Its not economically feasible because modern economics functions to create monetary value not tangible value for our society. You shouldn’t view it through the lense of what is “economically feasible” we should view it through the lense of what we should value as a society. Homelessness exists as a motivating coercive force to keep us buying into a system that would kick us to the curb if any of us were dealt a few bad hands in life. Its why our insurance is tied to our employment. The system is fundamentally broken for humanity to exsist inside of healthily, so much so that alot of us cant even imagine a society outside of it.

      • @Bye
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        110 months ago

        The bailouts were loans. The us govt got that money back.

        Those banks should have been punished though, allowed to fail.

        • @[email protected]
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          110 months ago

          Didn’t the bailouts return less money with inflation though? We can’t even give students less interest than inflation with student loans. If the tables were turned the banks wouldn’t have taken less than 5% interest.

        • @Ensign_Crab
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          110 months ago

          They didn’t know that they would get the money back at the time.

        • @[email protected]
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          110 months ago

          Yes, the private sector did have enough capital to cover those loans. The public sector did it because it was a bad investment when you count opportunity cost.