I should hope he was Christian. You trying to say he didn’t believe in himself?
Edit: This was a joke. Attempting to make it about his self-esteem.
“I hope Jesus believed in himself, he had a lot going for him, it would be really sad if even though he has being the Son of God and all that going on he has so much self-doubt.”
Modern Judaism doesn’t believe that, but the people that believe Jesus was the son of god during Jesus’s lifetime would still have called themselves Jews. Jesus fit a Jewish prophecy. The religious split that created Christianity came after Jesus.
No one believed that Jesus was the son of God during Jesus’s lifetime, the prophesied Messiah figure was supposed to be a military/political leader. Jesus as the Son of God is 2nd century.
the prophesied Messiah figure was supposed to be a military/political leader.
Meh not really. There were tons of different messianic versions floating around. We know this because we have the dead sea scrolls where a fully religious figure is described that way, plus the writing of Josphius who talks about wandering holy men making that claim. Their culture was complex as well as their history. They “knew” that they had prophets who were poor, outcasts, military leaders, political leaders, kings, Rabbis, crazed hermits, magicians. Ezekiel and King David have very little in common except both were viewed as the rightful rulers of their time by latter generations.
Also Paul describes him that way. In Romans and Galatians.
Counter point: all other saints have eternal life through their acceptance of Jesus Christ their lord and savior, so technically they aren’t dead either, but they do have graves at least.
I should hope he was Christian. You trying to say he didn’t believe in himself?
Edit: This was a joke. Attempting to make it about his self-esteem.
“I hope Jesus believed in himself, he had a lot going for him, it would be really sad if even though he has being the Son of God and all that going on he has so much self-doubt.”
Christianity evolved out of Judaism after Jesus’ time, so no, he wasn’t Christian
This guy is implying that if god himself was born on this earth he would have religious beliefs.
The idea is so ridiculous it’s almost as ridiculous as existence of god. Wouldn’t that be some sort of a paradox?
I’m implying that Jesus of Nazareth was Jewish, I didn’t say anything about the son of god.
Judaism doesn’t believe that Jesus was the Son of God. Jesus constantly stated that he was the Son of God. Jesus was Christian.
Modern Judaism doesn’t believe that, but the people that believe Jesus was the son of god during Jesus’s lifetime would still have called themselves Jews. Jesus fit a Jewish prophecy. The religious split that created Christianity came after Jesus.
No one believed that Jesus was the son of God during Jesus’s lifetime, the prophesied Messiah figure was supposed to be a military/political leader. Jesus as the Son of God is 2nd century.
Meh not really. There were tons of different messianic versions floating around. We know this because we have the dead sea scrolls where a fully religious figure is described that way, plus the writing of Josphius who talks about wandering holy men making that claim. Their culture was complex as well as their history. They “knew” that they had prophets who were poor, outcasts, military leaders, political leaders, kings, Rabbis, crazed hermits, magicians. Ezekiel and King David have very little in common except both were viewed as the rightful rulers of their time by latter generations.
Also Paul describes him that way. In Romans and Galatians.
He only “said” that decades afterwards according to people who believed it to be the case.
Is God allowed to be Christian?
On that note, if Jesus was Christian why wasn’t he Saint Jesus?
I believe saints are pious Christians who died and then stayed dead. Jesus is technically still alive so he doesn’t count as a saint.
Counter point: all other saints have eternal life through their acceptance of Jesus Christ their lord and savior, so technically they aren’t dead either, but they do have graves at least.
Most scholarship I’ve read doesn’t seem to think the historical Jesus was presenting himself as the Son of God.