The first hearing in a landmark lawsuit against Israel enters its second day on Friday at the Hague-based International Court of Justice (ICJ).

  • HeartyBeast
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    11 months ago

    I’m not arguing that Israel hasn’t committed war crimes, in particular‘collective punishment but I don’t think that the legal test for genocide is likely to be met and EU will be mindful of that. I don’t think racism factors in, particularly.

    Personally I’m glad that that S. Africa is bringing the case as Israel’s reaction does need to be a scrutinised

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      11 months ago

      @HeartyBeast @roastedDeflator If it isn’t racism I don’t know what else. We spent the last two years with the media and the politicians making a big drama every time a russian bomb hit a building in Ukraine even if noone had a scratch (and rightfully so), and now that we have bombs daily killing hundreds of civilians everything is bussines as usual? That is racism my friend.

      We don’t even have all those drama about Ukraine anymore, simply because the disparity would be too obvious.

      • HeartyBeast
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        If it isn’t racism I don’t know what else.

        I think I’ve just told you.

        We spent the last two years with the media and the politicians making a big drama every time a russian bomb hit a building in Ukraine

        I think the level of support for Ukraine you see would be rather different if it had had sent in fighters and killed 12,000 Russian and foreign nationals, including civilians and children - and left 5431 injured as an initial act of aggression. You might even have found substantial international support for a Russian attempt at regime change.

        • @davepleasebehave
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          111 months ago

          you make a good point. But the Hamas attack did not happen in a vacuum.

          • HeartyBeast
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            111 months ago

            Absolutely, the Palestinians have suffered, oppression and occupation for decades.

            But drawing parallels, still - if Ukraine had slaughtered that number and pointed out that Russia had illegally occupied the Crimea, with nothing more than a bit of international tutting - I still think the international community would have been sympathetic to retaliation by Moscow.

            • @davepleasebehave
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              it’s an interesting idea.

              but we should not forget that Israel kills many people each year in places like the west bank where there is no Hama’s control. so again, we should not forget that this atack was not like 9/11 which came out of the blue. it’s the result of systemic oppression.