Instant death or continue the slow descent. I, of course, will be voting for slow descent but what the fuck ever. This country is fucked this planet is fucked let’s just get high and play video games while we still have electricity.
It’s the same argument against the death penalty: you can stop imprisonment/slow descent and turn it around. You can never come back from death/fascism.
To be fair, that’s not really true for fascism. It doesn’t usually end peacefully and almost never easily, but historically it certainly has come to an end in various places in various ways. I’m not saying this to say that it’s somehow okay, but rather that should it come to pass, people should not give up trying to thwart it.
I don’t know of any fascist countries that escaped fascism by themselves. They all had to be beaten. That’s what I was referring to in part, and the rest being that a fascist takeover is the death of the government and country. Whatever comes after Mayt not be recognizable from before.
Hm, I think South Africa might be a contender. Apartheid was ended by a white prime minister and then Nelson Mandela was peacefully allowed to be elected.
But the ditador also had to basically become physically incapable before that happened but it was a different time than before. That being said idk if being a different time is better or not in that sense.
That doesn’t change the fact that a shitload of people didn’t turn up to vote because they, like you said, didn’t want to settle. They didn’t like Clinton or Trump. So they just didn’t vote.
False comparison. They didn’t show up to vote because they are apathetic. The ones who cared showed up and voted, just not for bad candidates. There’s other races than President.
(As an aside, Secretary Clinton was a good candidate anyway.)
It was a 20 year low, so yeah, id say 2016 is a good thing to bring up when claiming we should simply not vote for the lesser evil. And they were apathetic because we had absolute shit people to choose from.
Instant death or continue the slow descent. I, of course, will be voting for slow descent but what the fuck ever. This country is fucked this planet is fucked let’s just get high and play video games while we still have electricity.
It’s the same argument against the death penalty: you can stop imprisonment/slow descent and turn it around. You can never come back from death/fascism.
To be fair, that’s not really true for fascism. It doesn’t usually end peacefully and almost never easily, but historically it certainly has come to an end in various places in various ways. I’m not saying this to say that it’s somehow okay, but rather that should it come to pass, people should not give up trying to thwart it.
I don’t know of any fascist countries that escaped fascism by themselves. They all had to be beaten. That’s what I was referring to in part, and the rest being that a fascist takeover is the death of the government and country. Whatever comes after Mayt not be recognizable from before.
Hm, I think South Africa might be a contender. Apartheid was ended by a white prime minister and then Nelson Mandela was peacefully allowed to be elected.
Spain did. Though only when Franco died of heart failure
Same with Portugal.
But the ditador also had to basically become physically incapable before that happened but it was a different time than before. That being said idk if being a different time is better or not in that sense.
Or we could have some standards and only vote for actual good candidates. If there aren’t any, don’t settle for the lesser evil, demand better!
Not settling for the lesser evil is how we ended up with Trump.
No, the downward slide of lesser evils is how we ended up with him.
That doesn’t change the fact that a shitload of people didn’t turn up to vote because they, like you said, didn’t want to settle. They didn’t like Clinton or Trump. So they just didn’t vote.
And here we are.
False comparison. They didn’t show up to vote because they are apathetic. The ones who cared showed up and voted, just not for bad candidates. There’s other races than President.
(As an aside, Secretary Clinton was a good candidate anyway.)
https://www.cnn.com/2016/11/11/politics/popular-vote-turnout-2016/index.html
It was a 20 year low, so yeah, id say 2016 is a good thing to bring up when claiming we should simply not vote for the lesser evil. And they were apathetic because we had absolute shit people to choose from.