Wings evolve from legs though, generally speaking. This means that a four legged dragon with wings would have conceivably evolved from a six legged creature. You can get hand-wings or arm-wings, and we’re not entirely sure but think insect wings may have also evolved from legs or some other kind of similar structure.
But pretty much you can either have wings or legs/arms. You have to trade them in. That’s why the whole angel/demon thing doesn’t work either. The traditional harpies work but they’d be furry and not feathered. I haven’t worked out the wingspan for them but you could probably come up with a reasonable guess. They’d be more bat-people than bird-people, and I suspect that their chest areas would be less generously proportioned than is typically seen in the artwork. I’m not going more into the physics of that one though.
None of these things exist so real life evolutionary biology doesn’t really have a place in this discussion, lol. Although you are correct.
Besides, since they are fictional you could just come up with some reason. Dolphins for instance have no legs, but still have the vestiges of them in the form of very small unconnected bones where their legs would be. They also have a dorsal fin on their backside and tiny little arms. So it stands to reason that, conceivably, wings could have evolved separately in a similar (note ‘a similar’ not ‘the same’) way to a dolphin’s dorsal fin.
You could jump from this concept (marrying real world evolutionary biology and fiction) and explain orc, trolls, etc… as ape descended life much the same as humans. Maybe merfolk evolved in the same way animals in the cetacea infraorder evolved from otter-like creatures. Maybe they have small unconnected bones for legs in much the same way that dolphins do.
History is not only on my side, it will be on my side, we shall overcome the hatred and misinformation campaign of the Monster Hunter fanbase that seems blithely unaware that their definition of dragonhood is universe specific and not some kind of scientific consensus.
Just to be clear, we will overcome by eating you babbling apes with our dragon jaws.
Like, come on.
Those guys make armor from the skulls of sentient creatures.
How have I never noticed this?!? What the fuck? I’m like middle aged and have liked dragons as long as I can remember, and I never noticed the difference. Dayum dude, don’t trust me as a material witness, that’s for sure!
Dragons have 4 legs and 2 separate wings, none of this wyvern shit.
Wings evolve from legs though, generally speaking. This means that a four legged dragon with wings would have conceivably evolved from a six legged creature. You can get hand-wings or arm-wings, and we’re not entirely sure but think insect wings may have also evolved from legs or some other kind of similar structure.
But pretty much you can either have wings or legs/arms. You have to trade them in. That’s why the whole angel/demon thing doesn’t work either. The traditional harpies work but they’d be furry and not feathered. I haven’t worked out the wingspan for them but you could probably come up with a reasonable guess. They’d be more bat-people than bird-people, and I suspect that their chest areas would be less generously proportioned than is typically seen in the artwork. I’m not going more into the physics of that one though.
None of these things exist so real life evolutionary biology doesn’t really have a place in this discussion, lol. Although you are correct.
Besides, since they are fictional you could just come up with some reason. Dolphins for instance have no legs, but still have the vestiges of them in the form of very small unconnected bones where their legs would be. They also have a dorsal fin on their backside and tiny little arms. So it stands to reason that, conceivably, wings could have evolved separately in a similar (note ‘a similar’ not ‘the same’) way to a dolphin’s dorsal fin.
You could jump from this concept (marrying real world evolutionary biology and fiction) and explain orc, trolls, etc… as ape descended life much the same as humans. Maybe merfolk evolved in the same way animals in the cetacea infraorder evolved from otter-like creatures. Maybe they have small unconnected bones for legs in much the same way that dolphins do.
There is a story in this, I can feel it.
IIRC we don’t actually know what structure fly wings evolved from. One popular hypothesis is gills.
That’s interesting. I wouldn’t have thought that.
Dragons are much cooler than Wyverns, why do they keep getting dunked on like this :(
Cos dragons suck.
2 legs is cool like a t-Rex, 4 legs is lame like a pony.
The cool factor of a t-rex is it’s two little arms, no Wyvern got that. You calling Shadowfax lame?
I thought dragons had only 2 legs and a beefy arm sticking out the back of their necks?
That’s technically a burninator.
Guy wouldn’t know majesty if it came up and bit him in the face!
Can’t forget the spineties!
Mods, ban this historically ignorant man.
Mods, ban this biped big bat thing.
History is not only on my side, it will be on my side, we shall overcome the hatred and misinformation campaign of the Monster Hunter fanbase that seems blithely unaware that their definition of dragonhood is universe specific and not some kind of scientific consensus.
Just to be clear, we will overcome by eating you babbling apes with our dragon jaws.
Like, come on.
Those guys make armor from the skulls of sentient creatures.
They’re the baddies.
Bro don’t get us involved. If it’s us monhunt fan then we will call these two wyvern and these two a dragon.
Classic MH fandom gaslighting, smh
How have I never noticed this?!? What the fuck? I’m like middle aged and have liked dragons as long as I can remember, and I never noticed the difference. Dayum dude, don’t trust me as a material witness, that’s for sure!
Helps that I often saw my countries flag when growing up.
I wish I had a dragon on my country’s flag… Maybe I can petition Congress to change the 50 stars to 50 dragons. That would be AWESOME!