Yeah, the the fantasy definition is not of any relevance. Only the real world actual observable outcome definition is of any importance. Much like they ignore the resources and building to perform said work in their “theft” argument, they ignore the actual definitions of most of the terms they flip on about.
That “fantasy” definition is a core building block behind the theory that drove the soviet union, the people’s republic of china and other socialist countries and revolutions that happened. I mean people were and are willing to go to war over it, I wouldn’t dismiss it as irrelevant.
You’re using the liberal definition of labor value, which is the price the worker charges the capitalist for selling them their labor-power.
Marxist_Bear is using the marxist definition of labor value which is the value of a commodity measured in labor-time required to produce it.
Yeah, the the fantasy definition is not of any relevance. Only the real world actual observable outcome definition is of any importance. Much like they ignore the resources and building to perform said work in their “theft” argument, they ignore the actual definitions of most of the terms they flip on about.
That “fantasy” definition is a core building block behind the theory that drove the soviet union, the people’s republic of china and other socialist countries and revolutions that happened. I mean people were and are willing to go to war over it, I wouldn’t dismiss it as irrelevant.
Here is a quick read on marxism so you can judge for yourself whether marxist theory is a model of reality or not: https://en.prolewiki.org/wiki/Library:How_Marxism_works
The failed and gone USSR which became a Dictatorship within less than a generation isn’t the flex you think it is.
Ok? When do things start to get relevance in your opinion if multiple wars aren’t enough?