Its obvious when watching Google and Bing results.
Try to find any sort of objective information and the first 3-4 pages will almost all be AI generated garbage that took most of the information from some other highly outdated source that was garbage to begin with.
And as the engines are AI, they can automatically manipulate search results and keep dates and time stamps updated, so that whenever google visits, the page is always the “newest” information.
When the first five results are the same sentences worded slightly differently like a freshman essay it is not a good sign that I will find a real answer.
The most annoying thing is that almost all tech information has fallen victim to this shit.
We now have to go back to pre-2000’s methods of searching sites, by first identifying sites as reliable and then by relying on the sites own search engines to not suck.
In some cases, this is workable.
In cases where the sites have integrated Google searches, this is even more useless than using Google itself.
Someone should invent a search engine that allows for curated sources. For most things, I’d love to search among the top few thousand sites, and exclude everything else.
I haven’t used kagi, but I believe you can do exactly that with it. You do have to pay for the service, but that’s probably a good thing.
This is a link to the features page. It allows you to permanently ban or boost results from specific domains. But you may need to do some manual effort to make that happen, I don’t really know if there are community-curated backbones or anything for that.
But you can also see if the result is popular, and they seem to work pretty hard to make their platform worth the spend. Everything I’ve heard from people who use it is good.
Yahoo started out like this. They had humans curating the sites that they searched, and it was pretty good until the web got too big for that to be efficient.
I’ve got exactly that running on my home network for tech stuff.
I’ve thought of opening it up and even been thinking of building a group of people trustworthy to do the curation of sites, but I generally CBA interacting with people that much, I used to be highly active on forums like Madonion/futuremark, [H], etc, but those days are long behind me and these days, I post a bit on Reddit and talk to my wife and that’s about it.
If things proceed to go to shit as much as it has, I may open it up anyway, mostly because maintaining and re-curating sites is a drag on its own.
The amount of sites that were once great tech spots that then got gulped up by the same ol same ol big tech sites to be turned into generic shit, it’s not that they become uncountable, it’s that it’s almost every single one of them.
The best still seems to be simply posting questions on the few OG computer/tech forums that managed to survive.
For hardware and OS, places like ServeTheHome, [H], Anandtech, Techpowerup, etc.
For programming information, it’s so murky I can’t even suggest any specific sites anymore, not even Stack.
Phone/Tablet info, even XDA is getting murky, mostly because a lot of users there only watch the forum for their specific device, so if yours isn’t one that is used by a lot of people, info gets super limited.
Its obvious when watching Google and Bing results.
Try to find any sort of objective information and the first 3-4 pages will almost all be AI generated garbage that took most of the information from some other highly outdated source that was garbage to begin with.
And as the engines are AI, they can automatically manipulate search results and keep dates and time stamps updated, so that whenever google visits, the page is always the “newest” information.
When the first five results are the same sentences worded slightly differently like a freshman essay it is not a good sign that I will find a real answer.
The most annoying thing is that almost all tech information has fallen victim to this shit.
We now have to go back to pre-2000’s methods of searching sites, by first identifying sites as reliable and then by relying on the sites own search engines to not suck.
In some cases, this is workable.
In cases where the sites have integrated Google searches, this is even more useless than using Google itself.
Someone should invent a search engine that allows for curated sources. For most things, I’d love to search among the top few thousand sites, and exclude everything else.
I haven’t used kagi, but I believe you can do exactly that with it. You do have to pay for the service, but that’s probably a good thing.
This is a link to the features page. It allows you to permanently ban or boost results from specific domains. But you may need to do some manual effort to make that happen, I don’t really know if there are community-curated backbones or anything for that.
But you can also see if the result is popular, and they seem to work pretty hard to make their platform worth the spend. Everything I’ve heard from people who use it is good.
https://blog.kagi.com/kagi-features
Yahoo started out like this. They had humans curating the sites that they searched, and it was pretty good until the web got too big for that to be efficient.
I’ve got exactly that running on my home network for tech stuff.
I’ve thought of opening it up and even been thinking of building a group of people trustworthy to do the curation of sites, but I generally CBA interacting with people that much, I used to be highly active on forums like Madonion/futuremark, [H], etc, but those days are long behind me and these days, I post a bit on Reddit and talk to my wife and that’s about it.
If things proceed to go to shit as much as it has, I may open it up anyway, mostly because maintaining and re-curating sites is a drag on its own.
The amount of sites that were once great tech spots that then got gulped up by the same ol same ol big tech sites to be turned into generic shit, it’s not that they become uncountable, it’s that it’s almost every single one of them.
The best still seems to be simply posting questions on the few OG computer/tech forums that managed to survive.
For hardware and OS, places like ServeTheHome, [H], Anandtech, Techpowerup, etc.
For programming information, it’s so murky I can’t even suggest any specific sites anymore, not even Stack.
Phone/Tablet info, even XDA is getting murky, mostly because a lot of users there only watch the forum for their specific device, so if yours isn’t one that is used by a lot of people, info gets super limited.
It’s gotten bad out there.
No need to invent.
That’s how originally search engines, including Google, Yahoo and all the other big ones worked.
You didn’t get indexed by default.
You either got indexed by being submitted or by being referenced often by one or more well represented sites.
It’s only later in the game they started crawling everything.
I wonder if this will push humanity to go back to books and libraries.
Books and textes on paper have one big favour: They are not as easy to change than digital textes.