My point there was demonstrating that your approach to defining quality was bad.
You keep trying to claim that quality difference is subjective. If that is your point then the JPEG quality option does nothing. Quality 1 is the same as Quality 99 because the pixels change. It is a false claim. You can objectively measure the difference from the original. Again this isn’t discussing two images that are so similar that the differences are subjective such as two different encoders both at Quality 99.
I am going to repeat this again because you keep ignoring it. I AM NOT DISCUSSING TWO IMAGES WHERE THE IMAGE IS SO SIMLAR THAT QUALITY BECOMES SUBJECTIVE.
do you not understand the concept of an analogy?
You said this, “your claim is that 99% efficacy is worse than 100% efficacy,” after I had already said:
“I AM NOT DISCUSSING TWO IMAGES WHERE THE IMAGE IS SO SIMLAR THAT QUALITY BECOMES SUBJECTIVE.”
Yeah, if we obfuscate it down to ignore everything else, it’s fully transparent
There is no difference in the UI. It isn’t obfuscation but presenting a complex task as simple to the user. Just like all modern technology. You don’t have to know how the OS multitasks to post your replies.
if we’re bringing the concept of multi core cpus in again, t
Stop with the chatGPT crap. I was writing a VxD driver for Windows 3.1 32 years ago.
i could very well argue that you must think cpus are simple because you don’t understand them.
When typing your reply, what did you have to do to control your multiple CPU’s so that you could type and post your reply. Did you have to set the affinity of the browser process to a particular core? Did you manually schedule the threads? No? I thought so.
there are websites for that, so you couldn’t argue that anyway.
Show me a website that compares a computer from when the iphone 5 came out directly to a computer today. Yes there are benchmarks archived of PC’s from 2012 which can be compared to benchmarks in 2023. But no one has reviewed them side by side today. If you just want static numbers for an iPhone 5 there’s DXOMark and GSMArena.com.
So that’s your claim? An iPhone 5’s camera is as good as any camera unless someone has done a review with a direct comparison? It must be as good as a Canon EOS R6 Mark II because no one has tested them side by side? Really? When you do video editing work, was the source all recorded nothing better than iPhone 5 because its all the same?
because i guess taking photos was never a part of phone culture.
The first mass marketed camera was a produced by Alphonse Giroux in 1839. Although everyone didn’t have a camera until the release of the Kodak brownie in 1900. It has nothing to do with the phone. Adding the camera to the phone made it possible to not have to buy and carry a separate device to do what everyone had been doing for over 100 years.
I dont integrate with the modern culture
You use a desktop computer and do video editing! It’s the phone camera users who are traditional.
You keep trying to claim that quality difference is subjective.
i’m claiming that it’s both objective, and subjective and that in this case, for me, it’s primarily subjective, rather than objective, based on my usage.
You said this
you asked me where the percentages came from, i explained it.
There is no difference in the UI. It isn’t obfuscation but presenting a complex task as simple to the user.
or what you could quite literally argue is, the definition of obfuscation, though in this case i probably meant abstraction. They’re basically the same tbh.
Stop with the chatGPT crap. I was writing a VxD driver for Windows 3.1 32 years ago.
it’s not chatgpt, also good to know you wrote insert device drivers for windows.
When typing your reply, what did you have to do to control your multiple CPU’s so that you could type and post your reply. Did you have to set the affinity of the browser process to a particular core? Did you manually schedule the threads? No? I thought so.
no, but my system did, having a cursory understanding of this stuff and how it works allows you to better utilize your hardware.
Show me a website
cpubenchmark
and basically every other synthetic benchmark tool out there.
cpus are a bundle of transistors, it’s not hard to bench them (though it’s not that simple either) phone cameras are a little more involved. You can’t really just go “bigger number more better”
So that’s your claim? An iPhone 5’s camera is as good as any camera unless someone has done a review with a direct comparison?
i literally have like two paragraphs explaining my thoughts. Not sure why you even put that in there.
Adding the camera to the phone made it possible to not have to buy and carry a separate device to do what everyone had been doing for over 100 years.
amusingly, not my claim at all, the first phone that released, which really did numbers, had a camera on it. Every phone since then has had a camera. Although i should probably mention contextually here, that i am SPECIFICALLY referring to touch screen phones, the modern ones, which really invented the whole philosophy of modern phone culture, the thing that i was specifically referring to in my previous comment. Since we already established that lack of context is bad and what not.
You use a desktop computer and do video editing! It’s the phone camera users who are traditional.
You keep trying to claim that quality difference is subjective. If that is your point then the JPEG quality option does nothing. Quality 1 is the same as Quality 99 because the pixels change. It is a false claim. You can objectively measure the difference from the original. Again this isn’t discussing two images that are so similar that the differences are subjective such as two different encoders both at Quality 99.
I am going to repeat this again because you keep ignoring it. I AM NOT DISCUSSING TWO IMAGES WHERE THE IMAGE IS SO SIMLAR THAT QUALITY BECOMES SUBJECTIVE.
You said this, “your claim is that 99% efficacy is worse than 100% efficacy,” after I had already said:
“I AM NOT DISCUSSING TWO IMAGES WHERE THE IMAGE IS SO SIMLAR THAT QUALITY BECOMES SUBJECTIVE.”
There is no difference in the UI. It isn’t obfuscation but presenting a complex task as simple to the user. Just like all modern technology. You don’t have to know how the OS multitasks to post your replies.
Stop with the chatGPT crap. I was writing a VxD driver for Windows 3.1 32 years ago.
When typing your reply, what did you have to do to control your multiple CPU’s so that you could type and post your reply. Did you have to set the affinity of the browser process to a particular core? Did you manually schedule the threads? No? I thought so.
Show me a website that compares a computer from when the iphone 5 came out directly to a computer today. Yes there are benchmarks archived of PC’s from 2012 which can be compared to benchmarks in 2023. But no one has reviewed them side by side today. If you just want static numbers for an iPhone 5 there’s DXOMark and GSMArena.com.
So that’s your claim? An iPhone 5’s camera is as good as any camera unless someone has done a review with a direct comparison? It must be as good as a Canon EOS R6 Mark II because no one has tested them side by side? Really? When you do video editing work, was the source all recorded nothing better than iPhone 5 because its all the same?
The first mass marketed camera was a produced by Alphonse Giroux in 1839. Although everyone didn’t have a camera until the release of the Kodak brownie in 1900. It has nothing to do with the phone. Adding the camera to the phone made it possible to not have to buy and carry a separate device to do what everyone had been doing for over 100 years.
You use a desktop computer and do video editing! It’s the phone camera users who are traditional.
i’m claiming that it’s both objective, and subjective and that in this case, for me, it’s primarily subjective, rather than objective, based on my usage.
you asked me where the percentages came from, i explained it.
or what you could quite literally argue is, the definition of obfuscation, though in this case i probably meant abstraction. They’re basically the same tbh.
it’s not chatgpt, also good to know you wrote insert device drivers for windows.
no, but my system did, having a cursory understanding of this stuff and how it works allows you to better utilize your hardware.
cpubenchmark and basically every other synthetic benchmark tool out there. cpus are a bundle of transistors, it’s not hard to bench them (though it’s not that simple either) phone cameras are a little more involved. You can’t really just go “bigger number more better”
i literally have like two paragraphs explaining my thoughts. Not sure why you even put that in there.
amusingly, not my claim at all, the first phone that released, which really did numbers, had a camera on it. Every phone since then has had a camera. Although i should probably mention contextually here, that i am SPECIFICALLY referring to touch screen phones, the modern ones, which really invented the whole philosophy of modern phone culture, the thing that i was specifically referring to in my previous comment. Since we already established that lack of context is bad and what not.
cool, still not a normie though. Unfortunately.