I think that argument is circular because it didn’t even attempt to argue grounds for genocide. It merely states facts that the humanitarian picture is grim and that the healthcare system was in the verge of collapse. It seems obvious to me that the arguments don’t lead to the conclusion. I’m not sure how to explain it differently. It begins with the premise and goes back around tk the same premise. Part of this is because the entire document does not consider Israel’s position or include Israel’s explanations for things.
It’s a war, a war in a tiny city where the enemy is dug into the city itself and using civilians as human shields with the goal of intentional martyrdom.
The arguments do not consider perfectly valid reasons why the humanitarian picture is so grim and why the healthcare system in Gaza is collapsing: because Hamas built its war infrastructure underneath people’s houses, schools, hospitals, electrical and water infrastructure, and then use those places to launch terrorist attacks against innocent Israeli, including intentionally targeting women and children as a matter of purposeful strategy, as opposed to discordant, occasional war crimes, for which the Israeli’s responsible should absolutely be held accountable.
I get it, is real shots of hostages here and there, the shot some civilians here and there. By and large though Israel really is targeting Hamas and the tunnels and Hamas have for years deployed a strategy of maximizing civilian casualties to paint as immoral.
Like if you drive up to my house and open fire on it from your car, if I shoot back, is it my fault that you have your kids and your family in your car with you while you’re out doing drive-bys?
I’ve read a lot of books and have seen a lot of movies where war comes to a city, and the warriors tell the women and children to get out, while they stay behind to fight. That’s not what Hamas does. Apparently 1.8 million people left their homes and went and signed in at refugee camps. That means something like 600,000 to 800,000 people did not heed the calls for evacuation. It’s pretty impressive that only 25,000 people have died in this situation, a war in one of the most densely populated areas on the planet.
Of course if you ask Hamas, they don’t have one single fighter working for them, in fact, they don’t even exist, and everyone killed in every airstrike and every explosion and every shooting ever are innocent Palestinian civilians. In my book the Palestinian authorities and Hamas and even the Palestinian people have very little credibility when it comes to saying what happened in this theater.
I think there has been war crimes on both sides and the people responsible should be dealt with most harshly.
Like if you drive up to my house and open fire on it from your car, if I shoot back, is it my fault that you have your kids and your family in your car with you while you’re out doing drive-bys?
No. It’s not your fault.
But does this describe what’s happening on the ground today?
Others might see it more like this:
“If you drive up to my house and open fire on it from your car, then I come to your neighborhood with all my friends with guns, and I kill your wife, and I kill your son and your daughter and your dog, and then I blow up your house and the library next to you, is it my fault if your son, daughter, wife, and dog are dead?”
I think that argument is circular because it didn’t even attempt to argue grounds for genocide. It merely states facts that the humanitarian picture is grim and that the healthcare system was in the verge of collapse. It seems obvious to me that the arguments don’t lead to the conclusion. I’m not sure how to explain it differently. It begins with the premise and goes back around tk the same premise. Part of this is because the entire document does not consider Israel’s position or include Israel’s explanations for things.
It’s a war, a war in a tiny city where the enemy is dug into the city itself and using civilians as human shields with the goal of intentional martyrdom.
The arguments do not consider perfectly valid reasons why the humanitarian picture is so grim and why the healthcare system in Gaza is collapsing: because Hamas built its war infrastructure underneath people’s houses, schools, hospitals, electrical and water infrastructure, and then use those places to launch terrorist attacks against innocent Israeli, including intentionally targeting women and children as a matter of purposeful strategy, as opposed to discordant, occasional war crimes, for which the Israeli’s responsible should absolutely be held accountable.
I get it, is real shots of hostages here and there, the shot some civilians here and there. By and large though Israel really is targeting Hamas and the tunnels and Hamas have for years deployed a strategy of maximizing civilian casualties to paint as immoral.
Like if you drive up to my house and open fire on it from your car, if I shoot back, is it my fault that you have your kids and your family in your car with you while you’re out doing drive-bys?
I’ve read a lot of books and have seen a lot of movies where war comes to a city, and the warriors tell the women and children to get out, while they stay behind to fight. That’s not what Hamas does. Apparently 1.8 million people left their homes and went and signed in at refugee camps. That means something like 600,000 to 800,000 people did not heed the calls for evacuation. It’s pretty impressive that only 25,000 people have died in this situation, a war in one of the most densely populated areas on the planet.
Of course if you ask Hamas, they don’t have one single fighter working for them, in fact, they don’t even exist, and everyone killed in every airstrike and every explosion and every shooting ever are innocent Palestinian civilians. In my book the Palestinian authorities and Hamas and even the Palestinian people have very little credibility when it comes to saying what happened in this theater.
I think there has been war crimes on both sides and the people responsible should be dealt with most harshly.
No. It’s not your fault.
But does this describe what’s happening on the ground today?
Others might see it more like this:
“If you drive up to my house and open fire on it from your car, then I come to your neighborhood with all my friends with guns, and I kill your wife, and I kill your son and your daughter and your dog, and then I blow up your house and the library next to you, is it my fault if your son, daughter, wife, and dog are dead?”