I think it’s tough for men to make friends and have hobbies because so many people are overworked and too busy.
These man camps seem stupid to me personally because there are a million other activities to partake in where you can challenge yourself. Go hiking or camping or ride a dirt bike and be social. Run a Tough Mudder with some buddies to build some camaraderie.
A man camp just seems like an activity for men who have no hobbies or interests outside their family and work.
I’m all for men being more therapy positive and mental health positive. I see a lot cheaper versions of this kind of group excursions in church men’s groups and Christian circles.
Somehow it’s become normalized for men to not have close friendships with other men and feelings of isolation in the last 15 years, I think a lot of it is that men are so busy just having to support themselves, let alone their families, as incomes have lagged behind cost of living increases. No one has time to be involved in civic orgs, hobby groups, or their communities.
There is a bit of the “toxic masculinity” that is become vogue to blame all of society’s problems on, but its overblown in my opinion. Men have been masculine since the Neanderthal days, its just the last 15 years that it became “gay” to have a close relationship with the lads, which has led to the isolation that men feel in 2024
I think it’s tough for men to make friends and have hobbies because so many people are overworked and too busy.
These man camps seem stupid to me personally because there are a million other activities to partake in where you can challenge yourself. Go hiking or camping or ride a dirt bike and be social. Run a Tough Mudder with some buddies to build some camaraderie.
A man camp just seems like an activity for men who have no hobbies or interests outside their family and work.
I’m all for men being more therapy positive and mental health positive. I see a lot cheaper versions of this kind of group excursions in church men’s groups and Christian circles.
Somehow it’s become normalized for men to not have close friendships with other men and feelings of isolation in the last 15 years, I think a lot of it is that men are so busy just having to support themselves, let alone their families, as incomes have lagged behind cost of living increases. No one has time to be involved in civic orgs, hobby groups, or their communities.
There is a bit of the “toxic masculinity” that is become vogue to blame all of society’s problems on, but its overblown in my opinion. Men have been masculine since the Neanderthal days, its just the last 15 years that it became “gay” to have a close relationship with the lads, which has led to the isolation that men feel in 2024
At 18k I find it insane people would ro if.
I guess when men are leading an unfulfilled life they look to these programs to establish their manhood.
I think it’d be more productive just to invest in some quality hobbies but maybe that’s not enough to prove to themselves how manly they are.
I don’t know anyone IRL who would be interested in a program like this so any opinion on the matter is just speculation from me.
At 18K, I just find it a little baffling. That used to be weekends when I was younger, we would crawl in the mud, shoot, etc. Go camping.
Women like masculine men. I find this generation complains they can’t get a date and you have to ponder why.