They don’t even have a legal case to go against Palworld anyway, unless the conspiracy-brains at Twitter are somehow correct about the devs ripping Pokemon models.
You’re right that they don’t. And yet this “porkyman gonna sue palword lololol” and “palword porkyman ripof lmao” discourse is everywhere in the article, as shown by the following excerpts:
Palworld developer Pocketpair has insisted Palworld is more akin to survival crafting games such as Ark Survival Evolved and Valheim than Pokemon, but that hasn’t stopped people from continuing to hit out at the game.
Debate has raged online about whether Nintendo or The Pokémon Company will take legal action over Palworld.
Don McGowan, who led the Pokémon Company’s legal team for almost 12 years, told Game File: “This [note: ambiguous if he refers to the controversy or PalWorld itself] looks like the usual rip off nonsense that I would see a thousand times a year when I was Chief Legal Officer of Pokémon.”
All eyes are on Nintendo and The Pokémon Company to see if the companies take some sort of legal action against Palworld,
People here are pretending that the article is solely about Toasted Shoes’ mod being hit with a C&D or similar. It is not.
About the Twitter idiocy, I mentioned it in the palworld community, but there’s no way that they ripped off Pokémon assets. People are making shit up (i.e. assuming) and those sloppy “journalists” are taking it seriously.
Palworld developer Pocketpair has insisted Palworld is more akin to survival crafting games such as Ark Survival Evolved and Valheim than Pokemon, but that hasn’t stopped people from continuing to hit out at the game.
And even if Palworld was a monster-taming-battling game, so what? There’s Digimon, Temtem, Monster Hunter Stories, Medabots, and so on and so on, and many have existed for decades. No company can own the IP to a genre. Ultimately, the people claiming that Nintendo/Game Freak will do this or that are a tiny minority, but journalists and youtubers thirsty for clicks are giving them a megaphone.
And even if Palworld was a monster-taming-battling game, so what? There’s Digimon, Temtem, Monster Hunter Stories, Medabots, and so on and so on, and many have existed for decades.
Yup. Cue to my mention of the Megami Tensei series. In Digital Devil Story you’re already recruiting and raising fantastical creatures to your party, to fight alongside you, almost a decade before Pokémon started out, the game is from '87.
(Fuck, the Medabots games that you mentioned were fun. A bit rough at the edges, but customising the bots was fun.)
How can you possibly be so confident they didn’t pull models from Pokemon? It’s absolutely a possibility, and frankly seems impossible not to be true when you directly compare the models.
Sounds like you haven’t actually looked at any of it then apparently. There’s a reason the main people speaking out about it are literally industry professionals. Even my rather meager experience with creating mods and design models for 3D printing is plenty of experience to make those comparisons myself. If you’re going to act like you have any knowledge or authority on this subject you should probably have some idea what you’re talking about.
Sounds like you haven’t actually looked at any of it then apparently.
“I assume that you’re an ignorant” is not an argument.
There’s a reason the main people speaking out about it are literally industry professionals.
If you’re going to engage in the appeal to authority fallacy, at least do it properly, by naming those “industry professionals” that you are talking about.
Relevant detail: if the models were so obviously copied, the article in the OP would be called “Nintendo sues Palworld over copyright infringement”.
Even my rather meager experience with creating mods and design models for 3D printing is plenty of experience to make those comparisons myself.
Aaaaaaaand the source linked is a X post that doesn’t even analyse the models themselves. (Of course, because even from a glance they are clearly different.)
That is not evidence dammit. Show the meshes of the models side-by-side, and point out the parts that were allegedly copied. Having roughly a similar shape is easy to justify by being inspired on the same critters, it is not evidence of copy.
There are two separate comparison videos in that article, as well as the posts from industry figures discussing the comparisons that were uploaded and how damning they are.
HOWEVER. It has come to my attention that the original poster who created those videos edited the Palworld models to make it look more damning. I was going off bad information, and I acknowledge you’re correct, there no -valid- evidence Palworld directly stole models.
It’s crazy to assume that just because Nintendo must be perfectly fine with it just because they didn’t file a lawsuit the day after the game launched.
They don’t even have a legal case to go against Palworld anyway, unless the conspiracy-brains at Twitter are somehow correct about the devs ripping Pokemon models.
You’re right that they don’t. And yet this “porkyman gonna sue palword lololol” and “palword porkyman ripof lmao” discourse is everywhere in the article, as shown by the following excerpts:
People here are pretending that the article is solely about Toasted Shoes’ mod being hit with a C&D or similar. It is not.
About the Twitter idiocy, I mentioned it in the palworld community, but there’s no way that they ripped off Pokémon assets. People are making shit up (i.e. assuming) and those sloppy “journalists” are taking it seriously.
And even if Palworld was a monster-taming-battling game, so what? There’s Digimon, Temtem, Monster Hunter Stories, Medabots, and so on and so on, and many have existed for decades. No company can own the IP to a genre. Ultimately, the people claiming that Nintendo/Game Freak will do this or that are a tiny minority, but journalists and youtubers thirsty for clicks are giving them a megaphone.
Yup. Cue to my mention of the Megami Tensei series. In Digital Devil Story you’re already recruiting and raising fantastical creatures to your party, to fight alongside you, almost a decade before Pokémon started out, the game is from '87.
(Fuck, the Medabots games that you mentioned were fun. A bit rough at the edges, but customising the bots was fun.)
How can you possibly be so confident they didn’t pull models from Pokemon? It’s absolutely a possibility, and frankly seems impossible not to be true when you directly compare the models.
Because I did compare the models, as shown in the reply to your other comment.
Because it is obviously not true if you compare the models, if you have literally any experience of any kind with 3D models
Sounds like you haven’t actually looked at any of it then apparently. There’s a reason the main people speaking out about it are literally industry professionals. Even my rather meager experience with creating mods and design models for 3D printing is plenty of experience to make those comparisons myself. If you’re going to act like you have any knowledge or authority on this subject you should probably have some idea what you’re talking about.
“I assume that you’re an ignorant” is not an argument.
If you’re going to engage in the appeal to authority fallacy, at least do it properly, by naming those “industry professionals” that you are talking about.
Relevant detail: if the models were so obviously copied, the article in the OP would be called “Nintendo sues Palworld over copyright infringement”.
“Chrust me” is not an argument.
Hic Rhodes, hic salta. Show it.
https://www.gamesradar.com/game-developers-arent-really-buying-the-similarities-between-palworld-and-pokemon-to-accidentally-create-a-complex-model-mesh-with-so-near-exact-proportions-is-practically-impossible/
Aaaaaaaand the source linked is a X post that doesn’t even analyse the models themselves. (Of course, because even from a glance they are clearly different.)
That is not evidence dammit. Show the meshes of the models side-by-side, and point out the parts that were allegedly copied. Having roughly a similar shape is easy to justify by being inspired on the same critters, it is not evidence of copy.
There are two separate comparison videos in that article, as well as the posts from industry figures discussing the comparisons that were uploaded and how damning they are.
HOWEVER. It has come to my attention that the original poster who created those videos edited the Palworld models to make it look more damning. I was going off bad information, and I acknowledge you’re correct, there no -valid- evidence Palworld directly stole models.
That said, you have to be a blind to think they aren’t shameless Pokemon knockoffs. It goes far beyond mere passing similarities, most pals are assembled from chopped up Pokemon (quite thematically appropriate I suppose). Nintendo certainly thinks so too: https://www.ign.com/articles/the-pokemon-company-makes-an-official-statement-on-palworld-we-intend-to-investigate
It’s crazy to assume that just because Nintendo must be perfectly fine with it just because they didn’t file a lawsuit the day after the game launched.
Man, thats really funny, thats exactly what I was thinking about you when I read your comments the first time