Musk provides the Money required to fulfill the M-C-M’ circuit, by which a sum of Money M is turned into a Commodity C which is then turned into a larger sum of Money M’. SpaceX is more of an RnD company than anything else at this point, so the required M is very high for a currently negative M’. Eventually, the goal is for SpaceX to turn profitable once it finishes enough of the initial design phase.
The thing is, anyone can provide M. The fact that Musk provides M for SpaceX does not mean there is a talent or skill being deployed by Musk that makes him any more special than anyone else. It’s the Engineers that are designing the rockets, after all, not Musk.
Further still, there does not at all need to be an individual who provides M. The workers can collectively own Capital and vote on managers and how they wish to direct production, all without a petite Dictator, ie a Capitalist, who stands on top of the Workers for the pursuit of profit.
Another easy to envision example is 2 factories. One version is owned by a Capitalist, and the Workers have little to no power. The other is owned by the Workers, who elect a manager. Both have the same amount of labor (including management), but the latter example has a more equitable distribution of power via ownership.
Is any of this confusing for you? I can elaborate, if you wish.
Musk is only “important” because we allow a society where individuals can amass vast amounts of Capital and rent-seek. He is a beneficiary of an apartheid emerald mine, that’s why he’s special, born with a silver spoon.
Workers struggle to chip in because Capitalist states are designed to be as comfortable to Capitalists as possible, as Capitalists have outsized influence. Worker co-operatives, ie Socialist businesses, have higher rates of stability and employee satisfaction, but are difficult to start as there isn’t developed infrastructure for that.
Capitalists aren’t a group of evil people that are powerful because they are evil, that’s a child’s view of Marxism. Capitalists are a class, that share similar class interests and as such can act in a way that protects their own interests without individually collaborating. Capitalists themselves are unnecessary, unless you happen to think that Worker Co-operatives don’t exist.
Communists and Socialists cannot control corporations, that’s an absurd idea. The closest would be Unionization, which I support heavily and donate to strike funds when I can. The idea that workers can simply lobby for better policy though is an extremely naive view of how the electoral process works. Perhaps on a local level, yes, but when you have to combat the media’s smear campaigns and work against the overwhelming forces of Capital, it’s much more effective to gain grassroots progress.
Also, it’s cringe as fuck to call this “degeneracy,” it reeks of major neckbeard energy.
Not at all, Marxism is progressive, not regressive. Just like we got rid of kings, Capitalists too will eventually give way to democratic control of industry.
Also kinda sad that you seemed to ignore every other part of my takedown of what you said and focused on me calling out your unironic usage of the word “degeneracy,” I spent at least a few minutes writing that comment out for you to be as easy to follow as possible. Oh well.
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Musk provides the Money required to fulfill the M-C-M’ circuit, by which a sum of Money M is turned into a Commodity C which is then turned into a larger sum of Money M’. SpaceX is more of an RnD company than anything else at this point, so the required M is very high for a currently negative M’. Eventually, the goal is for SpaceX to turn profitable once it finishes enough of the initial design phase.
The thing is, anyone can provide M. The fact that Musk provides M for SpaceX does not mean there is a talent or skill being deployed by Musk that makes him any more special than anyone else. It’s the Engineers that are designing the rockets, after all, not Musk.
Further still, there does not at all need to be an individual who provides M. The workers can collectively own Capital and vote on managers and how they wish to direct production, all without a petite Dictator, ie a Capitalist, who stands on top of the Workers for the pursuit of profit.
Another easy to envision example is 2 factories. One version is owned by a Capitalist, and the Workers have little to no power. The other is owned by the Workers, who elect a manager. Both have the same amount of labor (including management), but the latter example has a more equitable distribution of power via ownership.
Is any of this confusing for you? I can elaborate, if you wish.
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Musk is only “important” because we allow a society where individuals can amass vast amounts of Capital and rent-seek. He is a beneficiary of an apartheid emerald mine, that’s why he’s special, born with a silver spoon.
Workers struggle to chip in because Capitalist states are designed to be as comfortable to Capitalists as possible, as Capitalists have outsized influence. Worker co-operatives, ie Socialist businesses, have higher rates of stability and employee satisfaction, but are difficult to start as there isn’t developed infrastructure for that.
Capitalists aren’t a group of evil people that are powerful because they are evil, that’s a child’s view of Marxism. Capitalists are a class, that share similar class interests and as such can act in a way that protects their own interests without individually collaborating. Capitalists themselves are unnecessary, unless you happen to think that Worker Co-operatives don’t exist.
Communists and Socialists cannot control corporations, that’s an absurd idea. The closest would be Unionization, which I support heavily and donate to strike funds when I can. The idea that workers can simply lobby for better policy though is an extremely naive view of how the electoral process works. Perhaps on a local level, yes, but when you have to combat the media’s smear campaigns and work against the overwhelming forces of Capital, it’s much more effective to gain grassroots progress.
Also, it’s cringe as fuck to call this “degeneracy,” it reeks of major neckbeard energy.
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Not at all, Marxism is progressive, not regressive. Just like we got rid of kings, Capitalists too will eventually give way to democratic control of industry.
Also kinda sad that you seemed to ignore every other part of my takedown of what you said and focused on me calling out your unironic usage of the word “degeneracy,” I spent at least a few minutes writing that comment out for you to be as easy to follow as possible. Oh well.
I read it and quite enjoyed it, you didn’t type it in vain!
Then it was worth it! :)
What should be done with the degenerates?
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Maybe stop talking like someone who is, then.
Musk does have a use: to be an example when he’s marched to a guillotine.