And what happened when Trump was president? He moved the embassy to Jerusalem. Biden stopped Israel from invading Jordan. You’re smoking something if you think Trump wouldnt be multiples worse.
Just a little factoid for you: there wasn’t a war at the time, you know. The point was that Trump was all for Israel no matter what and would be multiple more if he was in office now.
Yes, and Trump did exactly what to try to mitigate those circumstances?
It was an oversimplification, but the point was that Trump broke a longstanding policy of trying to display some semblance of neutrality by moving the embassy to Jerusalem, even as Zionists continued to exhibit these behaviors. To the extent Trump was given a chance to indicate his policy on the conflict, he sided against the Palestinians. It wasn’t much compared to what faces Gaza now, but given the context of the activity of the time, it’s the best indicator we have to go on.
The point is both likely candidates are going to be unreasonably friendly to the Zionists, probably equally bad in real terms. Biden has said empty words about Israel maybe perhaps not doing things right, and I suspect Trump wouldn’t even say such things, but the difference in rhetoric may be more anti-Palestinian with Trump, but the core substance of the situation will likely be the same either way.
It absolutely positively sucks that we have to face the reality of one of two evils and have to settle for selecting the lesser of the evils, but to stand on principle and sit things out will do nothing to advance your principles but compromise many other principles you may hold dear.
It’s not comparable to supporting the latest Israeil offensive, however that level of offensive was not in play during Trump’s term. However, during his term Israel did continue it’s general anti-Palestinian aggression, and Trump was obviously fine and dandy with it to the point of moving the embassy to effectively take the side of the Zionists. So every data we have to guess Trump’s behavior relative to the Gaza invasion suggests he’d be at least as pro-Zionist as the current administration.
Trump is not a Reagan or Bush or even a “Republican” so much as he is “Trump”. To the extent it came up, he was snubbed by former presidents including Bush. Trying to extrapolate 30 year old Republican behavior to guess Trump’s behavior doesn’t work.
It is not that I don’t agree with you, but you do realize this means that Biden is to the right of Reagan and Bush Sr. Hardly someone who should be the Democratic choice.
Biden won the primaries previously because they hoped he would be inoffensive to slightly right leaning folks that might have been willing to vote against Trump.
And what happened when Trump was president? He moved the embassy to Jerusalem. Biden stopped Israel from invading Jordan. You’re smoking something if you think Trump wouldnt be multiples worse.
Moving the embassy to Jerusalem is worse than a genocide?
That’s a very absurd take.
Just a little factoid for you: there wasn’t a war at the time, you know. The point was that Trump was all for Israel no matter what and would be multiple more if he was in office now.
Cheers.
There is always a war on Palestine by Israel. You think everything started on October 2023?
Here’s one of many https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_2019_Gaza–Israel_clashes
Yes, and Trump did exactly what to try to mitigate those circumstances?
It was an oversimplification, but the point was that Trump broke a longstanding policy of trying to display some semblance of neutrality by moving the embassy to Jerusalem, even as Zionists continued to exhibit these behaviors. To the extent Trump was given a chance to indicate his policy on the conflict, he sided against the Palestinians. It wasn’t much compared to what faces Gaza now, but given the context of the activity of the time, it’s the best indicator we have to go on.
The point is both likely candidates are going to be unreasonably friendly to the Zionists, probably equally bad in real terms. Biden has said empty words about Israel maybe perhaps not doing things right, and I suspect Trump wouldn’t even say such things, but the difference in rhetoric may be more anti-Palestinian with Trump, but the core substance of the situation will likely be the same either way.
It absolutely positively sucks that we have to face the reality of one of two evils and have to settle for selecting the lesser of the evils, but to stand on principle and sit things out will do nothing to advance your principles but compromise many other principles you may hold dear.
It’s not comparable to supporting the latest Israeil offensive, however that level of offensive was not in play during Trump’s term. However, during his term Israel did continue it’s general anti-Palestinian aggression, and Trump was obviously fine and dandy with it to the point of moving the embassy to effectively take the side of the Zionists. So every data we have to guess Trump’s behavior relative to the Gaza invasion suggests he’d be at least as pro-Zionist as the current administration.
Trump is not a Reagan or Bush or even a “Republican” so much as he is “Trump”. To the extent it came up, he was snubbed by former presidents including Bush. Trying to extrapolate 30 year old Republican behavior to guess Trump’s behavior doesn’t work.
It is not that I don’t agree with you, but you do realize this means that Biden is to the right of Reagan and Bush Sr. Hardly someone who should be the Democratic choice.
Perhaps, but that’s where we are, unfortunately.
Biden won the primaries previously because they hoped he would be inoffensive to slightly right leaning folks that might have been willing to vote against Trump.
Israel wasn’t handed an excuse to commit genocide on Trump’s watch. That’s the only reason he looks better.