The next years are going to be fun… The world is burning while the fossil fuel industry is chugging along like everything is great as long as you buy enough co2 credits.

I’m scared in what kind of world my children will have to live in…

  • @braxy29
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    i have kids. i actively worry about how miserable their future may be. i try not to talk about this stuff to them much because i don’t want to scare them with it. i don’t think there’s anything i or they can do (except maybe vote).

    • @grue
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      i try not to talk about this stuff to them much because i don’t want to scare them with it.

      IMO that’s exactly the opposite of what you should be doing. Frankly, what we need is for folks to be raising a generation of Greta Thunberg-types.

      See also the bit about “weaponized hopelessness” in the Kurzgesagt video mentioned elsewhere in the thread.

      • @acupofcoffee
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        Once my kids get older they will be taught science properly, and they will be fully aware of the seriousness of our situation.

        I know people keep saying “I don’t want my kids to suffer” but the fact is the only way out of this is getting more younger people out there AND ENGAGED to make a difference. Your child could discover a breakthrough to solve the problem, who knows? More population isn’t the real problem, it’s what that population does and what corporations do in support of those choices.

        I’d rather have taken the shot and failed instead of never trying at all (born and tried instead of never born).

        • @grue
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          51 year ago

          More population isn’t the real problem

          Having up to two kids per couple isn’t “more population” anyway. It takes 2.1 kids, on average, just to replace the older generation as they die off.

          • @acupofcoffee
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            21 year ago

            And you see the negative effects of this in many countries.

            Don’t get me wrong, I totally get not having kids for financial reasons. I have kids myself, it’s been incredibly difficult. We’ve had to find the money and make ends meet, but at the end of the day we’ve been able to do it.

        • @masquenox
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          31 year ago

          Your child could discover a breakthrough to solve the problem, who knows?

          There’s no “breakthrough discovery” needed to solve the problem - we’ve known how to solve this problem for more than a hundred years now. It’s called “dismantling capitalism” - and it’s still our only way out.

          • @acupofcoffee
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            21 year ago

            The proletariat is treated by the bourgeoisie the same as a mob boss treats his underlings.

            Just good enough to make them comfortable, but not too comfortable to elevate themselves or no longer need them. Comfortably uncomfortable.

            I agree with you, but half the US believes certain people aren’t actually people, so we have a long way to go to dismantle the problems of our world economic structure. An armed reform will just lead to authoritarianism, always has.

    • @kaffiene
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      51 year ago

      I feel you. I have kids too. I fear for their future.

    • @JudgeHolden
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      On the flipside, it’s also true that if we all simply give up and don’t have kids because the future looks so bleak, by definition we are admitting to a kind of psychic defeatism and epistemic hopelessness. Having kids is one of the best ways for regular people to have any hope of influencing the future.