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    10 months ago

    I just don’t think the violence should stop until Hamas is gone and the area can be rebuilt safely.

    Do you think they can actually remove Hamas with this strategy they are using now?

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      010 months ago

      No they cannot defeat Hamas using strategic bombing alone. The strategy is evolving. Already the bombings have slowed way down. Pretty soon it will be man to man combat followed by at least a few years of martial law during reconstruction.

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        110 months ago

        And how will that look for the Palestinians there “in a few years’ time”? 🤔

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          -110 months ago

          I don’t see any other way forward in Gaza in the short term. Do you? It will look awful for a while but with light at the end of the tunnel. The foundations of the three largest cities were turned to Swiss Cheese, and are completely uninhabitable from a structural standpoint. I imagine the cities must essentially be paved over and rebuilt.

          The tunnels are unprecedented. I don’t know that anyone knows what it looks like or how they will deal with pressing concerns such as restoring arable soil. I know Palestinians in Gaza have no institutions in place to address any of these concerns. Hamas should have thought of these innocent people who would suffer the reconstruction before it sold out their foreseeable futures to kill 1,300 Israeli civilians and first repsonders. I know Hamas was super popular in Palestine on October 8.

          I’ve said that the Israeli people are going to need to accept their obligation to restore Gaza and its people and that’s going to start with the upcoming elections and whether the Likud party maintains its narrow margin. I have hope they will do the right thing.

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            110 months ago

            I don’t see any other way forward in Gaza in the short term. Do you?

            Literally a fucking ceasefire.

            It will look awful for a while but with light at the end of the tunnel.

            Except for the Palestinians who needlessly had to die

            The foundations of the three largest cities were turned to Swiss Cheese, and are completely uninhabitable from a structural standpoint.

            Thanks to Israel.

            I imagine the cities must essentially be paved over and rebuilt.

            Literally admitting that Israel destroyed homes and infrastructure: a fucking war crime.

            Hamas should have thought of these innocent people who would suffer the reconstruction before it sold out their foreseeable futures to kill 1,300 Israeli civilians and first repsonders. I know Hamas was super popular in Palestine on October 8.

            Would you like just for one second in your life hold Israel (a so-called democracy) up to the same standards you hold Hamas? If Hamas can’t and shouldn’t kill 1,300 Israeli civilians (btw like 1/3 or something were military personnel, and the number was revised down to “1000+” whatever that means), then Israel shouldn’t do the barbaric crap they are doing now that I have no words for.

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              010 months ago

              Hamas was intentionally targeting civilians. And kidnapping them. And raping them.

              Okay a ceasefire and then what? Who’s going to rebuild everything?

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                110 months ago

                Give them rights… why is this so hard for Israel??? Why is their “self-determination” tied to the complete erasure and genocide of another group of people!!!

                Eh screw it I’m out, I’m done, like done with this for good. I gave you a chance, said to myself that this guy/gal have some hope for scepticism in them. I think I was wrong.

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                  -210 months ago

                  It’s not tied to any erasure, except of Hamas. And nobody is going to miss it after it’s gone. My skepticism and willingness to admit when I’m wrong about somethinf is evident in my post history and my good faith discussions with you. Regards.