• @frickineh
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    5411 months ago

    Not very effective when they can just garnish your wages, your taxes, and your social security. I’m fully on the side that believes student loans desperately need reform, and Biden’s forgiveness plan getting shot down has definitely negatively impacted my life, but I’m not dealing with ruined credit and the stress that not paying causes when I know they’ll find a way to get their money unless I basically throw away my career to work cash jobs. That would impact my life way worse in the long run.

    • ReallyKinda
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      11 months ago

      Right now borrowers are incentivized to keep low income jobs and avoid settling down (they can’t buy houses anyway) which isn’t exactly excellent from a state perspective.

      • @frickineh
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        1811 months ago

        That kind of sounds like when people say that anyone on welfare could be doing better but chooses not to so they can keep their benefits. Of course there will always be people right on the cusp who determine that the little extra money they’d make by working more hours or trying to get a slightly better job won’t make up for what they’d lose (either in benefits or in savings from a lower student loan payment), but anyone who can afford to do significantly better generally tries to do that for a lot of reasons.

        • ReallyKinda
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          1011 months ago

          Sure but right now you can essentially defer forever under 60k, 60k vs 120k I absolutely agree, but that usually happens in steps and $60k to $70k you might not see a benefit.

      • @[email protected]
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        611 months ago

        Not factoring in the borrowers that still have student loans from a decade or two or three ago and can’t just upend their now-established lives by halting payment. They’ll be forced to keep paying and keep that turd floating, not by choice, mind you.

      • prole
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        211 months ago

        borrowers are incentivized to keep low income jobs

        I don’t believe this at all.

        • @[email protected]
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          111 months ago

          I used to calculate garnishments in a previous job. There is a minimum take home pay that you have to get.

          A low income job does mean less garnished wages, because you don’t make enough to get over the threshold.

          It’s a similar method that some dead beat parents do to game the system out of having to pay child support. Sometimes they supplement with work under the table so they aren’t living crappy lives and sometimes they just live crappy lives. You can live a long time off of spite.