Edited footage of protesters chanting “gas the Jews” at a rally outside the Sydney Opera House in October was shared on social media, but NSW Police said an extensive investigation found no evidence of it happening.
Edited footage of protesters chanting “gas the Jews” at a rally outside the Sydney Opera House in October was shared on social media, but NSW Police said an extensive investigation found no evidence of it happening.
Thank goodness, “where’s (sic) the Jews” instead of “gas the Jews”, just two days after the Oct 7 killings and mass rapes by Hamas, definitely makes it much better /s
How dare they ask why Jewish voices aren’t also against Israel’s horrific response at a rally aimed at our governments blind support for Israel and the now obvious to everyone genocide of Palestinians.
Instead there was only lies spread to say they were calling for genocide of Jewish people.
I’d feel weird for going into the streets to protest against Israel for killing terrorists who murdered other jews. A jewish person showing up at a pro Palestinian rally is like asking to be hatecrimed.
Yet Jewish voices for Palestine have been at marches.
The pro-palestine protests near me are often organized by jewish orgs, palestinian orgs, muslim orgs, and socialists. I have not seen a hate crime take place at any protest, even though there are people with jewish voice for peace there, or jewish people in the other orgs.
If that’s the reason why they were yelling that, it’s racist even if it’s not genocidal. Substitute any other ethnicity or race into that sentence. Demanding that Jews attend a protest or swear a loyalty oath is racist – the same way it would be if a bunch of people were yelling “where’s the Blacks?” or “where’s the Muslims?”
For those coming to this late, know this: there’s a little army of racist ghouls patrolling these threads to promote their agenda - in this case arguing that it’s somehow legit and anti-racist to get the gang together to call out ‘the Jews’. Yet not one of these pathetic cowards are brave enough to step into the light to defend it.
Here’s why: it’s indefensibly racist. They’re painted into a corner and can’t defend it without removing the mask.
When people demand that Muslims declare a loyalty oath against Hamas or Hezbollah or ISIS, or when they hold Muslims (or Palestinians) collectively responsible for their actions, it’s inarguably racist. This isn’t different.
Today they’re encouraging you to target Jews; tomorrow it’ll be BIPOC or Muslims. We should resist racist bullshit as ever. It’s cancer to a liberation movement. These people are tumors to be excised from the movement, not people to be followed or promoted in it. And I say that as someone who’s fought for a Palestinian state since the second intifada.
You’re grasping at straws, you clearly didn’t read the article (and don’t want to), so I quote the relevant passage for you as you seem to only have read the headline:
That + repeating “where’s the Jews” during a rally immediately 2 days after Hamas’ killings and mass rapes on October 7th is definitely indefensible and certainly is incompatible with how you want it to be interpreted.
You hoped that this article would be a gotcha moment but you seem to not have read anything beyond the headline, because the article is actually still pretty damning.
Mate, I know what happens in my country.
https://amp.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/oct/09/pro-palestinian-rally-in-sydney-calls-for-australia-to-drop-support-for-israel
These were nationwide protests against Israel’s oppression. And they were justified, everything everyone said would happen has happened.
The reason “Gas the Jews” was lied about was because it would provide legal recourse to arrest those protesting. It was a deliberate attempt to abuse the justice system to silence victims. This lie led to further protests being cancelled and was spread worldwide to create a narrative that Palestians wanted all Jewish people dead.
https://www.crikey.com.au/2023/12/13/viral-footage-gas-the-jews-police-factcheckers-unverified/
As for your “well there was other antisemitic remarks made” argument.
There is no defence for editing video footage with faked audio and using that to influence political decisions to further oppress an oppressed people.
But the article says it was used to change the hate crime laws. That makes it sound like it wasn’t covered by laws at the time this allegedly happened.
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If you think “where’s” and “gas” are morally equivalent words in that sentence, good news, your local neonazis are most likely recruiting and very excited to hear more about your opinions.
Was there evidence of this?
If 7/10 were killings, what has been committed by Israel since?
Yes(Archive). Reported by many news organizations.
The UN is currently in Israel investigating(Archive).
There was a very quick narrative formed around the supposed rape of children which shifted the Overton window significantly for even moderates in Israel.
An investigation isn’t evidence of it. Both links are paywalled by the way.
I assume you mean the Times articles (there are 5 links in that post). Edited to add archive links to those two articles.
From the large investigation article:
Photos, videos, GPS data, witnesses, and expert testimony are evidence.
No it was fully debunked. The Intercept posted about it recently. Even NYT employees don’t believe it anymore.
https://theintercept.com/2024/01/28/new-york-times-daily-podcast-camera/
The guys who actually debunked it two months ago are not allowed to be posted here because they’re more pro Russia. All my posts about it got removed back then. They are maximum censored.
While I don’t agree with their Russia stance their Palestine research has been spot on so far. But here’s a random YouTube video https://youtu.be/paDjsRkhc28
Here is an alternative Piped link(s):
https://piped.video/paDjsRkhc28
Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
I’m open-source; check me out at GitHub.
Them pausing a podcast to investigate claims isn’t them not believing in it. The Times regularly publishes corrections and have issued one about that article regarding a person’s age. And that’s after further investigation. It’s not surprising that they didn’t air it afterward – it’s a daily podcast that discusses the most important news stories of the previous few days. I listen to that podcast and I can’t recall them ever covering something that was months old.
The ‘guys’ who “actually debunked it” – an anonymous author publishing at a propaganda outlet – are a bunch of fucking liars, which is why it was banned to begin with. The Times followed up with that family:
After this was published, the propaganda outlet corrected “minor typographical errors” but mentioned nothing about the family calling them liars, disputing the thesis and headline of their article. It’s been five days since that story was published. They didn’t mention that she quickly deleted her post to begin with or contact her to ask why. They didn’t mention that she was upset that they had used her comment to help cover up horrific sexual violence. They are exploiting a grieving family to promote a false narrative. Those intrepid, upstanding anonymous reporters at propaganda rags!
That article is an object lesson in why you shouldn’t fish “news” out of the toilet.
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Are you calling The Intercept toilet news?
New York Times was using ZAKA as evidence, The guys who made up the 40 beheaded babies.
Go read the original article debunking NYT. It’s not some random with wild claims. Everything is backed up with links and videos. “Screams without proof”.
More and more reporters are coming out right now backing it up.
I’m calling the propaganda outlet I’m not naming a toilet. Are you even reading my posts?
The 40 beheaded babies claim is a long-debunked myth and a claim never made by either the Israeli government or the IDF. It began and spread on social media.
That Intercept article is hyperbolic and editorializes like crazy. The Daily “going to press” on a single episode with something that could be proven untrue after further investigation is nothing like Caliphate except for it being a podcast. Caliphate was a feature 12-episode documentary series that had serious reporting errors. Comparing those two things is NY Post-level tabloid reporting. It was reasonable for them not to record it but the Times’ follow-up report says that they confirmed their initial reporting and debunked the propaganda article. The only issue left in that article is one witness – and, again, they interviewed 150 people for that investigation – who later said that he couldn’t be sure if it was Hamas or non-Hamas Palestinians who committed sex crimes because civilians crossed over after the military collapsed. He didn’t change his story about what he saw. That doesn’t dramatically change the reporting, let alone “debunk” it.
I literally just told you why that article is bullshit in the last post. The family that is the focus of that article disputes the article. They DO NOT renounce the article. They DO NOT believe that they were misled. Miral Alter wrote a post because she was confused and wanted to protect her sister. She quickly took it down, a detail the article omitted when they published it anyway. They didn’t contact her to find out why she had removed it because they didn’t care if they were misrepresenting her. She’s upset that they used her to construct a false narrative about sexual violence. In spite of this, they haven’t issued a correction or retraction. The headline and subheading of that article are both the polar opposite of the truth. But they don’t care. The point was constructing that false narrative, not telling the truth. That’s why they have a terrible reputation. That’s why the article was removed whenever it was posted. It’s garbage.