More video and eyewitness info on Al Jazeera so far

Also reported on Common Dreams and Middle East Eye.

I haven’t found any reports of any independent investigations yet, hopefully they are underway

  • @Maggoty
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    411 months ago

    It isn’t blanket denials from the IDF when Reuters breaks it down with hard evidence, satellite photography, and eyewitness accounts from western Journalists.

    You can try to discredit the accounts all you want but I’ve been in a war zone. I know what it’s supposed to look like and this ain’t it.

      • @WaxedWookie
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        411 months ago

        A neutral news outlet like Reuters generally won’t apply characterisations like “genocide” themselves - they’ll report on the ICJ ruling.

        In the meantime, we can apply the UN definition the ICJ uses, or the dictionary definition for ourselves. That makes things very clear.

        • @[email protected]
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          111 months ago

          If Reuters is that person’s source for his claims of genocide yet Reuters said no such thing, Reuters is not his source.

          This is the problem I having. You guys are throwing all these respected names around to make your case, but when asked for the source, it’s always “well of course they don’t actually say genocide but all the reporting in totality equals genocide.”

          So sure, how about you post here the ICJ definition of genocide and explain how the Oct. 7 war meets the definition.

          • @TokenBoomer
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            211 months ago

            Raz Segal, the program director of genocide studies at Stockton University, concretely says it is a “textbook case of genocide.” Segal believes that Israeli forces are completing three genocidal acts, including, “killing, causing serious bodily harm, and measures calculated to bring about the destruction of the group.” He points to the mass levels of destruction and total siege of basic necessities—like water, food, fuel, and medical supplies—as evidence. Source

            • @[email protected]
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              111 months ago

              So you are saying this person’s source is a scholar at a university yet they claimed it was Reuters to make it sound more legitimate?

              Why would they do that.

              Also if one scholar is enough to establish genocide, is 2 scholars enough to establish it isn’t genocide?

              • @TokenBoomer
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                111 months ago

                No. You’re right. We should wait until the conflict is over and we can get boots on the ground to do a proper investigation before we decide if what Israel is doing meets the definition of a word. It’s so much easier to define things once everyone’s dead.

                • @[email protected]
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                  111 months ago

                  I’m not sure I follow the context here.

                  You might be responding to the wrong comment chain. This is why you should respond to comments as they come into your inbox history, not spamming the comments of people through their comment feed.