Denver police have arrested a 13-year-old boy accused of fatally shooting a man whose leg was blocking the aisle on a public bus.

    • Flying Squid
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      1511 months ago

      Yes, that would definitely be one of the many, many better arguments for guns than ‘protection against bears and mountain lions.’

      • TWeaK
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        711 months ago

        Even then, though, you don’t need pistols for hunting.

        • Flying Squid
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          411 months ago

          I do know of people who hunt with handguns, but it is definitely rarer. I honestly don’t have any issues with hunting if you eat what you hunt. If you just do it to massacre an animal and just leave it where you killed it, fuck you, but I have no issue with responsible hunting practices.

          That said, it’s my understanding that bow hunting is the fastest, and thus most painless way of killing an animal.

          • NoIWontPickaName
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            That is completely False.
            I have shells that will cause a 3 to 4 inch cavitation hole when they hit something causing a large amount of damage and blood loss that will kill with any hit in the chest area.

            With a bow, even if you hit the heart it will still take time, especially if you miss and then it is bleeding, suffering, and you have to track it.

            At top skill in both I would say it is a tie in that both have the potential to kill instantly, a bow is more likely to harm than kill at lower skill levels though.

            • Flying Squid
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              211 months ago

              Fair enough. I’m not a hunter. That’s just something I’ve been told before.

          • TWeaK
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            211 months ago

            Yes but you’d struggle to get close enough to make a reliably good shot. Ranged shots are what rifles are for.

            • NoIWontPickaName
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              Most of the things I’ve shot in my life with the rifle I was close enough I could’ve done it with a pistol.

              We hunt in forests around here not plains.

              • TWeaK
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                211 months ago

                Pistol shooting practice is typically done at no more than 25 yards, while hunting rifles can more comfortably do a longer range. Sure, you can hit with a pistol at similar ranges (especially with a larger caliber as you propose) but rifles are better for controlling the recoil and typically more accurate. If the goal is to actually hit, and in particular kill painlessly, a rifle is the better tool.

                • NoIWontPickaName
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                  I think the farthest shot I have had was maybe 35 yards.

                  You basically find a good trail and put up a blind or stand near it.

                  We have to cut our own firing lanes so short distances are much preferred. Lol

      • NoIWontPickaName
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        311 months ago

        Tbf I carry a rifle any time I go in the woods damn near.

        I love nature but am terrified of bears and I want a big firecracker, if it comes down to trying to use it on a bear that wants to fight I am probably already fucked and I know that.

        • Flying Squid
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          If it makes you feel more secure, I won’t judge you, but you should know that-

          Statistics suggest there have been over 180 fatal bear attacks in North America since 1784. While the majority of these fatal attacks have been carried out by wild bears, some are the result of bears held in captivity.

          https://blog.batchgeo.com/bear-attack-statistics/

          In contrast-

          over 100 people drown every year in bathtubs.

          https://www.cpsc.gov/Newsroom/News-Releases/1975/CPSC-Releases-New-Study-On-Bathtub-And-Shower-Injuries

          • NoIWontPickaName
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            311 months ago

            Oh I recognize that it is completely irrational.

            It is just a childhood fear that I can’t beat.

            • Flying Squid
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              211 months ago

              Fair enough. Like I say, I’m not judging you. If that’s what you need to feel secure, that’s what you need to feel secure.

              • NoIWontPickaName
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                I don’t mean it that way, I was just acknowledging that I know it doesn’t make sense. lol

          • @Garbanzo
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            311 months ago

            Statistics like this are bunk. If I’m camping in the forest my chances of having a bad encounter with a bear are astronomically higher than drowning in a bathtub. Context is everything when it comes to your specific risk profile.

            • Flying Squid
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              111 months ago

              Except your chances of having a bad encounter with a bear are almost zero. Because bears almost never attack humans. Which is the point.

    • @[email protected]
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      611 months ago

      An activity where you would definitely supervise the child, not send them off on their own on a bus.

      • NoIWontPickaName
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        111 months ago

        I know, I own those too.

        My bow may be twenty years old but it kills just as good now as then.

      • @[email protected]
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        Manlier ways to hunt. That’s how you get to them. Guns are for sissies, bows are for real men.

        • NoIWontPickaName
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          I have both and they both have their advantages and disadvantages.

          I prefer my rifle because it has a much much higher chance of a clean quick kill.

          Personally if you are willing to let an animal suffer more to be more “manly” you were never manly at all.

          • @[email protected]
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            111 months ago

            I don’t do either. I’m primarily vegetarian because I know I wouldn’t want to kill an animal irl so I just generally avoid meat all together.