The CHC’s Tuesday proposals also come as the group has been purposefully excluded from Senate negotiations on border policy, which reportedly have centered on ways to curtail asylum and further fortify the border without addressing calls to overhaul the legal immigration system and appeals to give longtime undocumented immigrants a path to apply for legal status.

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  • queermunist she/her
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    Sorry, Democrats are too busy trying to appeal to right-wingers to give a shit. They believe you’ll vote for them anyway, so why bother?

    • @Rapidcreek
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      Republicans said they would only send aid to Ukraine if democrats created a border bill. Democrats and republicans created a border bill. Republicans in the House said they wouldn’t bring it it to the floor not because it wouldn’t pass but because it would and deprive them of an election issue during an election year. The failure of action is not with Democrats. It is with Republicans

      • queermunist she/her
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        Somehow you completely misread my point; Democrats shouldn’t have created this right-wing border bill in the first place!

        • @Rapidcreek
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          The bill is bipartisan. You may not like it, but that’s what it is.

          • queermunist she/her
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            That’s my point! Democrats did this bipartisan bill to appeal to right-wingers and they do not care that it alienates their base.

            What part of that do you disagree with?

            • @Rapidcreek
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              Bipartisanship means that you seldom satisfy all of your base. It does mean you get shit done, usually.

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                Their point is that the Republicans in the house were not going to pass a bill no matter what the Democrats or a bipartisan group did. Therefore, they should not have wasted their time.

                I don’t happen to agree with this, but that’s what their point is

                • @Rapidcreek
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                  Yes, it was a bluff that failed by Republicans.

                  • @Ensign_Crab
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                    And we’re not talking about funding Ukraine anymore. Republicans got what they wanted. Democrats get nothing. So both sides are happy.

              • @agitatedpotato
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                Oh so its gonna pass because it’s bipartisan?

                • @Rapidcreek
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                  Didn’t see the “usually” part?

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                    So it sounds like you’re agreeing it’s not gonna pass, so why should they be bipartisan with the bill if it doesn’t move the needle?

              • @Ensign_Crab
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                The only shit Democrats got done here was kissing Republicans’ asses and getting nothing out of it at all.

                So centrists will soon be calling it the most progressive shit ever.

                • @Rapidcreek
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                  Not at all. Democrats called their bluff. Republicans said they wanted a border bill, and they got one. Now they’ve proven it wasn’t about the border at all.

                  • @Ensign_Crab
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                    Hooray. We proved the obvious. We also proved that Democrats will do what Republicans want for the sheer joy of getting nothing out of it.

              • queermunist she/her
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                Seldom satisfy? This shit was so bad it’s enough to make people not vote for them. If this bipartisan bill had been successful it would have resulted in an extremely bad policy.

                Fortunately Republicans would rather get nothing done than get everything they want if it means Democrats can’t have a “win”.

                • @Rapidcreek
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                  So in the end, you complain that you don’t like the terms of a bill that won’t pass anyway. Sounds like a good use of time.