• @[email protected]
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    411 months ago

    That’s a valid opinion. It doesn’t change the fact that the crime is copyright infringement, not theft.

    • Zoolander
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      -411 months ago

      I’m not arguing the legal or criminal semantics. I’m arguing the dishonest justification and misrepresentation of piracy. Piracy is stealing. You’re stealing income from the creator if you ingest their work without paying for it. I don’t care if people pirate things but admit that it’s stealing and move on.

      • @[email protected]
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        411 months ago

        Piracy is stealing.

        No it is not. By any definition.

        You can think it’s morally wrong, that’s fine. But it simply, factually is not stealing.

        That’s the only point I’m making.

        • Zoolander
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          -211 months ago

          Then we’ll have to agree to disagree. It doesn’t matter how many levels of abstraction or semantics you hide it behind, you’re gaining from something made by another person without returning that gain (whether financially or otherwise) to that person.

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            111 months ago

            You’re welcome to disagree with any standardized definition you like. Seems like a pretty unwise thing to do, but that’s your prerogative.

            • Zoolander
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              -111 months ago

              Someone else posted the definition of stealing in this thread elsewhere. If I gain something from someone without giving them what they’ve demanded in return, it’s stealing.

              • @[email protected]
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                111 months ago

                To steal something, you must actually take something away from someone, such that they do not have that thing anymore.

                That’s not how piracy works.

                • Zoolander
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                  -111 months ago

                  No, you do not. If you hire someone to make you a website/video/picture and then don’t pay them after they’ve created it, you’re stealing from them. You can argue the semantics of that all day long and say that it’s a different term, I don’t care. You’re stealing from someone when you gain something from their work without compensating them (if they’re asking to be compensated in exchange for that work).

                  • @[email protected]
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                    111 months ago

                    If you hire someone to make you a website/video/picture and then don’t pay them after they’ve created it, you’re stealing from them.

                    Nope, you’ve potentially violated a contract, but you haven’t stolen anything.

                    By your definition, if I lend my friend a DVD movie and they watch it, they’ve now stolen that movie.