I seriously cannot have any degree of nuanced conversation here.
Like I get it, we all know capitalism is bad, but it feels like every time I or anyone go towards discussing the steps that need to be taken to address current looming problems in the short term, someone has to jump in and shut it down with "capitalism bad >:[ " and tear down any idea presented because its not complete and total destruction of the current economic model.
The result just feels like an echo chamber where no actual solutions get presented other than someone posting whole ass dissertations on their 33-step (where 30/33 steps are about as vague as “we’ll just handle it”) plan to fully convert the world to an anarchist commune.
Edit: I still vastly prefer Lemmy and the fediverse and a whole, my complaint here is that many of you are TOO INTENSE. You blow up small scale discussion.
What you are describing is a correct “image” of human-nature.
It also is a correct understanding of why humankind won’t get its viability in-order until it’s far far far too late to make any difference.
There are 1 or 2 papers, recently, on how human-nature is reactive to obvious-problems, and how that makes it impossible to prevent ClimatePunctuation, as I call it, from killing either all or nearly-all of our kind from this planet/system.
Nuance & considered-reason, both, have no place in imprinted animal-reaction, which is what is displacing considered-reason from our world, now.
“dog whistle” is just a euphamism for imprinted/programmed animal-reaction, limbic-mind’s displacement for considered-reason.
Daniel Kahneman’s “Thinking Fast & Slow” is the most important psychology-book in our world, right now, it is on this 2-system basis of our minds…
All the intense-but-not-actual/workable enforcing of ideology-addicts… it’ll never save us.
fundamentally, consider that addiction is a mechanism, not a problem: addiction-to-integrity is a Good Thing™, right?
Addiction-to-growing-up, addiction-to-wisdom, addiction-to-outgrowing-ignorance, addiction-to-being-a-proper-parent, etc…
But that is nuance.
Try telling any of the ideology-addicts whose ideology is centered on “addiction” that addiction is just an impersonal-mechanism, and it is what-the-addiction-is-TO that can be a problem … and you’ll discover how rabid/automatic/closed minds can be.
shruggeth
No matter: if life is what human-ignorance need eradicate from this world, then … eventually … life’ll try again, elsewhere.
An eldless stream of Universes, filled with worlds, it doesn’t matter if we won’t earn considered-reason, does it?
It’ll happen somewhere…
someday…
Statistically, it must, right?
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