Just to defend the modding team, the post wasn’t removed for the subject, but because it could be considered an opinion article. Not all mods agree on this point, and we are having a discussion on what should fall under rule 6. If you disagree with other posts, you should report it.
Just to entirely debunk that defense: I have reported the original fictional propaganda piece “screams without words” from the New York Times on /news and it did not get removed
Fake propaganda rape stories to manufacture consent for Genocide are allowed but articles debunking it by linking to sources from major Israeli newspapers and IDF evidence are apparently “opinion pieces”.
A two-month investigation by The Times uncovered painful new details, establishing that the attacks against women were not isolated events but part of a broader pattern of gender-based violence on Oct. 7.
Relying on video footage, photographs, GPS data from mobile phones and interviews with more than 150 people, including witnesses, medical personnel, soldiers and rape counselors, The Times identified at least seven locations where Israeli women and girls appear to have been sexually assaulted or mutilated.
You’ve been repeatedly shown to be dishonest in promoting your preferred narrative. An absurd amount of your time on here is spent desperately trying to “debunk” this single article with anything you can find. Proven propaganda articles, authors who publish for an authoritarian regime’s propaganda channels, you really don’t care where. And, no, this Intercept editorial that repeats the Mondoweiss claims but conveniently fails to mention that the family in question says they are untrue doesn’t “debunk” it either. Notably, it’s been ten days but Mondoweiss still hasn’t issued a correction or a retraction. I wonder why.
That NYT article is written by a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist (for conflict zone reporting). It’s written for a paper that routinely corrects errors. In spite of months of effort and additional reporting, there it is without a single major correction.
You’re right I’m wasting far too much time on dishonest and bad faith trolls which repeat the same propaganda no matter how often they are debunked.
The family still denies it so you are also just lying. The NYT special.
Gettleman is about to go to Colombia University that gives Pullitzer prizes. The same university that banned pro Palestinian students from protesting. He’s gonna grift an anti rape speech with Hilary Clinton.
This article from The Intercept provides all the evidence needed. Go read it if you aren’t a troll else good bye.
The last time they appear in the press was to say that claims they renounce the article are false and that Miral Alter is upset that her deleted post is being used to suggest that Hamas hasn’t committed acts of horrific sexual violence.
Now we’re at the point of claiming that the Pulitzer Prize is a Zionist conspiracy because Columbia University limited campus protests. Gettleman won a Pulitzer Prize for his reporting in East Africa 12 years ago.
Whataboutism is using irrelevant examples. As my example pertains directly to the argument of “using the report button” it is very relevant because it examplifies selective enforcement of the rules.
In any case I am glad the mod team is trying to work out more consistent rules. If I might bring a suggestion I would ask to focus less on the source of an article and more on whether the claims in the article have proper sourcing and evidence.
We know all too well that every initial article debunking the fraudulent NYT propaganda was swiftly deleted for “not being credible on the MBFC site”. Which is ran by one dude with obvious biases but somehow gets treated like the Bible.
What an absurd comment, who is upvoting this clown? The person they are accusing of all but being an IDF plant is not even from that sub’s mod team. They are totally unrelated
Just to defend the modding team, the post wasn’t removed for the subject, but because it could be considered an opinion article. Not all mods agree on this point, and we are having a discussion on what should fall under rule 6. If you disagree with other posts, you should report it.
Just to entirely debunk that defense: I have reported the original fictional propaganda piece “screams without words” from the New York Times on /news and it did not get removed
It is still up here
Fake propaganda rape stories to manufacture consent for Genocide are allowed but articles debunking it by linking to sources from major Israeli newspapers and IDF evidence are apparently “opinion pieces”.
Yes now go read the Intercept’s article to see every single lie you just mentioned fully debunked.
You are still repeating IDF propaganda.
You’ve been repeatedly shown to be dishonest in promoting your preferred narrative. An absurd amount of your time on here is spent desperately trying to “debunk” this single article with anything you can find. Proven propaganda articles, authors who publish for an authoritarian regime’s propaganda channels, you really don’t care where. And, no, this Intercept editorial that repeats the Mondoweiss claims but conveniently fails to mention that the family in question says they are untrue doesn’t “debunk” it either. Notably, it’s been ten days but Mondoweiss still hasn’t issued a correction or a retraction. I wonder why.
That NYT article is written by a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist (for conflict zone reporting). It’s written for a paper that routinely corrects errors. In spite of months of effort and additional reporting, there it is without a single major correction.
You’re right I’m wasting far too much time on dishonest and bad faith trolls which repeat the same propaganda no matter how often they are debunked.
The family still denies it so you are also just lying. The NYT special.
Gettleman is about to go to Colombia University that gives Pullitzer prizes. The same university that banned pro Palestinian students from protesting. He’s gonna grift an anti rape speech with Hilary Clinton.
This article from The Intercept provides all the evidence needed. Go read it if you aren’t a troll else good bye.
The last time they appear in the press was to say that claims they renounce the article are false and that Miral Alter is upset that her deleted post is being used to suggest that Hamas hasn’t committed acts of horrific sexual violence.
Now we’re at the point of claiming that the Pulitzer Prize is a Zionist conspiracy because Columbia University limited campus protests. Gettleman won a Pulitzer Prize for his reporting in East Africa 12 years ago.
This is pretty much whataboutism, so I don’t think it’s very productive to go into that.
As mentioned we are working on setting clearer rules to make sure we get a more standardized response to opinion pieces.
Whataboutism is using irrelevant examples. As my example pertains directly to the argument of “using the report button” it is very relevant because it examplifies selective enforcement of the rules.
In any case I am glad the mod team is trying to work out more consistent rules. If I might bring a suggestion I would ask to focus less on the source of an article and more on whether the claims in the article have proper sourcing and evidence.
We know all too well that every initial article debunking the fraudulent NYT propaganda was swiftly deleted for “not being credible on the MBFC site”. Which is ran by one dude with obvious biases but somehow gets treated like the Bible.
I will forward it to the modding team (:
So I guess you’re gonna be like Reddit’s worldnews mods with your very pro-IDF stance?
I don’t have a pro-IDF stance? I don’t know how you got that idea.
The /news mod team is not a monolith, @TheKingOfFlorida was not the person that deleted my post.
My goal is to bring attention to the matter so improvements can be made, not to throw the entire mod team under the the bus.
There is debate within the /news mod team, they’re not anywhere close to being as bad as the Reddit mods.
Let’s give them the benefit of the doubt and let them handle this internally.
What an absurd comment, who is upvoting this clown? The person they are accusing of all but being an IDF plant is not even from that sub’s mod team. They are totally unrelated
Doesn’t look good that the discussion is taking place behind closed doors, without seeking the users’ input.
We’re having discussions like these constantly, so we don’t want to flood the community with polls.
This does seem like a big enough issue tho so I will propose to indeed make some post asking for input.
Fair enough.