• @kaffiene
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      -210 months ago

      No but what really is helpful is having a slogan that prompts misunderstanding and division every time you use it.

      How the fuck can being clear be “unhelpful circlejerkibg”?

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        410 months ago

        It’s no secret that the system is shit. We all are victims of capitalism. And it IS traumatizing. However, if half of all retail workers started engaging in corruption and race based violence, we’d say ARWAB. It’s already been established in legalese that police are “agents of the state” and that their only purpose is to protect capital and capital owners. Anyone who thinks that joining the police force is going to help them give back to their community are naive idiots. ACAB.

        • @kaffiene
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          110 months ago

          If retail workers started engaging in violence I wouldn’t imagine that all retail workers had suddenly become bastards, I would ask wtf is going on systemically to create that outcome.

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            010 months ago

            All cops use violence to enforce unjust laws. They do it willingly. It’s not that some are violent - ACAB is a reference to bastardry being a necessary trait of someone that becomes a cop.

      • 𝕯𝖎𝖕𝖘𝖍𝖎𝖙
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        310 months ago

        “the system is shit” doesn’t really convey much meaning. it isn’t clear.

        describing why the system is shit, especially to those who watched their beloved family member become “one of the good guys” in the force can be more helpful.

        I called it circlejerking because we (the circle) all know what you mean by “the system is shit”, and it feels good to say because it is true. but to someone outside the circle, we look like a bunch of degenerates, criminal appologists, reverse-racists, etc…

        • @kaffiene
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          210 months ago

          Sure. But ACAB doesn’t describe why the system is shit

          • 𝕯𝖎𝖕𝖘𝖍𝖎𝖙
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            210 months ago

            Not clearly, no but does identify at least one type of actor in that system which is capable of change or reform.

            • @kaffiene
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              210 months ago

              IMO, at best, it identifies a symptom of the issue that requires change. Look, i don’t agree with you about the optics and helpfulness of ACAB but I agree with you that police are a major problem in the US and I’d welcome reform.

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                110 months ago

                It rolls of the tongue a bit nicer than:

                “We must dismantle the Prison & Military Industrial Complex and divert those funds into Educating, Feeding, and Housing the working class!”