• @Ross_audio
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    2911 months ago

    Like it or not “the wife” was a change in language seen as progressive not too long ago because it recognises that a man doesn’t own a woman.

    What would you prefer “my wife” implying ownership. “A wife” implying a non specific wife of anyone.

    Or they name them on social media to avoid mentioning their marital status and ignoring their relationship to them.

    I’m genuinely curious how this person should, in your view, refer to the person they’ve married.

    • Druid
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      3911 months ago

      My wife is absolutely fine in my books. The same way you can say my friend or my acquaintance or what have you, you can say my spouse/wife/husband/whatever without implying any sort of ownership. My view might be skewed being an ESL, but the same applies to German, Russian, Ukrainian, French, for example, which I speak too. I’ve never heard people complaining over those usages

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        I say either my wife, or the wife is fine.

        I’ve just stated the reason “the wife” exists at all is a reaction against historical patriarchal language.

        I’ve heard different people complain about both and they were always insufferable people trying to nit pick the conversation into a boring place.

        Like you!

    • @[email protected]
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      3211 months ago

      “My” can, but certainly doesn’t always imply ownership. It implies that the qualifier for person B in the sentence is applied to their relationship to me, person A.

      My banker, my hairdresser, my dentist, my accountant, my contractor, my neighbor, my boss, my elected official, etc.

      Probably not at all on you, here, but this is a good example of “exaggerated progressivism” or fake-woke/politically correct speech. It weakens the credibility of the progressive movement and gives conservatives silly exaggerations to point to and mock, when this kind of stuff emerges.

      Just my 2 cents!

      • @agent_flounder
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        1111 months ago

        My banker, my hairdresser, my dentist, my accountant, my contractor, my neighbor, my boss, my elected official, etc.

        Why do you have slaves? /s

    • @[email protected]
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      3211 months ago

      “my dad”

      I do not own him. Wtf is that argument?? It’s not a descriptor of ownership but relation.

      • [email protected]
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        2211 months ago

        “No he can’t be YOUR dad, he’s MY neighbor”
        This whole thread’s logic is whack.

      • @teamevil
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        611 months ago

        People are stupid and looking for reasons to be offended. Usually it means their opinions are to be ignored as they simply exist to argue about non issues.

      • @Ross_audio
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        411 months ago

        I agree either my wife, or the wife is fine.

        I’ve just stated the reason “the wife” exists at all is a reaction against historical patriarchal language.

    • The Pantser
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      2911 months ago

      I prefer the ole ball and chain. /s

      • @Gregorech
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        11 months ago

        The minister of war and finance.

      • @blipcast
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        1111 months ago

        When I read “the wife”, I read it as this. It feels impersonal, like you are intentionally distancing yourself from your spouse. Like, why would you do that unless you are literally Al Bundy?

      • @Ross_audio
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        211 months ago

        I agree either my wife, or the wife is fine.

        I’ve just stated the reason “the wife” exists at all is a reaction against historical patriarchal language.

        • Mario_Dies.wav
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          911 months ago

          NO! Everyone MUST speak how I do at all times, or they’re WRONG!

          There’s only one way to speak, and any linguistic deviation will be reported to the POLICE!

    • @afraid_of_zombies
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      I don’t know if “my” always means owning the noun it could mean co-owning the relationship. If I say “my partner” or “my kids” or “my job” I don’t think most people think I am a slave owner who somehow has an unbreakable contract with work.