I seriously cannot have any degree of nuanced conversation here.

Like I get it, we all know capitalism is bad, but it feels like every time I or anyone go towards discussing the steps that need to be taken to address current looming problems in the short term, someone has to jump in and shut it down with "capitalism bad >:[ " and tear down any idea presented because its not complete and total destruction of the current economic model.

The result just feels like an echo chamber where no actual solutions get presented other than someone posting whole ass dissertations on their 33-step (where 30/33 steps are about as vague as “we’ll just handle it”) plan to fully convert the world to an anarchist commune.

Edit: I still vastly prefer Lemmy and the fediverse and a whole, my complaint here is that many of you are TOO INTENSE. You blow up small scale discussion.

  • @TheFonz
    1•7 months ago

    All op was saying is that changing society is a complicated process. They even conceded that capitalism is bad.What about this do you disagree with?

    By op I mean /c/SorteKanin. I hope we’re talking about the same person.

      • @TheFonz
        0•7 months ago

        Ok. I see now. Maybe I did a poor job of communicating my point in my first response to you. I’m just tired of this all-or-nothing attitude. People need immediate solutions and venting on social media about “capitalism bad” is just not effective. I think clear actionable items are more effective.

        • db0
          1•7 months ago

          I am all for direct action immediately. In fact, that’s the only thing I’m for, because this direct action is the only thing that can bring down capitalism. But it has to be direct action. Not voting for politicians or begging them and shit.

          • @TheFonz
            0•7 months ago

            I’m really happy that some of you have the privilege of being accelerationists knowing that not much will affect you and you can choose to be apolitical. In the meantime, there are plenty of us that are being directly affected by legislation that republicans are passing and for now the best we can do is try to stand up to them. Thanks for your “direct action” though.

            • db0
              2•7 months ago

              I’m not being accelerationist. I have seen in the past that voting doesn’t do jack shit. Direct action brought the 8-hour day, the 40-hour week, the anti child labor laws, and so many others. Voting brought you directly to trump and fascism. So save your centrist smugness for someone else.