• @Arete
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    373 months ago

    This is a ski shop that posted a sign saying they won’t do business with Jews, due to a Jewish person stealing a sled.

    Replace ‘Jew’ with any other ethnic group here and it’s clearly not okay, but I’m sure other commenters will make an exception.

    • Philo
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      -213 months ago

      where did it say a Jew stole the sled?

      • @Arete
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        133 months ago

        the shop would no longer rent gear such as sleds, skis and snowshoes to “our Jewish brothers” after a series of “very annoying incidents” — including the theft of a sled.

        • Philo
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          -183 months ago

          Yes. What part of that says who stole the sled?

          • @Arete
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            203 months ago

            Basic reading comprehension mate. The sign is wrong regardless of whether a Jewish customer stole anything. It isn’t a point worth fighting over.

            • Philo
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              3 months ago

              It isn’t reading comprehension, it’s a lack of critical thinking, or in some cases it’s people reading into it what they want to see. And it is worth fighting for because it is that lackadaisical attitude that will allow widespread antisemitism again and another Holocaust.

              • @[email protected]
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                173 months ago

                the shop would no longer rent gear such as sleds, skis and snowshoes to “our Jewish brothers” after a series of “very annoying incidents” — including the theft of a sled.

                They don’t want to sell to Jews.

                Why?

                Because of a series of “very annoying incidents” — including the theft of a sled.

                Who are they saying stole the sled?

                “our Jewish brothers”

                If you can’t infer this just from reading, then yes you lack basic reading comprehension, regardless if the person did it or not.

                • Philo
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                  -193 months ago

                  That isn’t reading comprehension, that is an assumption. Insisting otherwise is doing nothing but making you look foolish.

      • @agent_flounder
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        where did it say a Jew stole the sled?

        Based on your other comments, the point you are making is that it isn’t explicitly stated, correct?

        But then why are they refusing to do business specifically with Jews after the thefts?

        And how is refusing business to a specific group not discriminatory?

        • Philo
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          -53 months ago

          Correct.

          What reason? That they along with many others in Europe are riding along with the rising tide of antisemitism (as the article states).

          • @agent_flounder
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            43 months ago

            Which makes the shop owners even more antisemitic. Someone steals something and antisemitic shop owners immediately blame all Jews. Yikes.

            • InternationalBastard
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              23 months ago

              Where did the other commenter say it’s not an antisemitic incident? I believe they want to say it’s nothing to do with a sled, just pure antisemitism

        • Philo
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          -123 months ago

          No, it isn’t. You are assuming. We all know what happens when you assume.

          • @[email protected]
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            43 months ago

            Ok, let’s break this down, because you’re being willfully obtuse here:

            said the shop would no longer rent gear such as sleds, skis and snowshoes to “our Jewish brothers” after a series of “very annoying incidents” — including the theft of a sled.

            This is a rental shop, in the context of this business, theft means that someone rented a sled and didn’t bring it back. A rental shop knows exactly who they rented something to, so it’s likely they knew it was an Israeli citizen/Jew. So we can at least be sure that the shop is making the accusation that a Jew stole a sled, I don’t know why you get so hung up on that.

            Now, is it racist to put up a sign that bars a whole group of people based on a few incidents? Yes, obviously, and nobody here is denying that.

            • Philo
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              -113 months ago

              What part of the word ASSumption are you not understanding?

              • @[email protected]
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                23 months ago

                Holy shit, you should just clarify your point. You are getting massive down votes because you are just being terse. Here, I will help you:

                The article doesn’t say anywhere that Jews stole anything. It says there were incidents of theft, but nowhere does it mention that the perpetrators were Jewish. The owner of the shop put a sign discriminating against Jewish people regardless, because they are racist fucks.

      • Philo
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        -83 months ago

        Wow, being downvoted because I refuse to participate in the confirmation bias you guys are?

        • @[email protected]
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          33 months ago

          I think it’s just not especially clear to people that you’re pointing out that there’s a reason the ski resort is implying, but skating around accusing a Jew of theft. For some reason people are interpreting it as pedantry instead of holding the ski resort accountable. They should be explicit about what exactly has happened so that people can see how flimsy it is instead of talking nebulously about “incidents”

          • @[email protected]
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            Don’t bother, his point was very clear from the start but he isn’t here to argue in good faith, he’s here to bait people with ridiculous questions and then in turn call them anti-semites for answering them. He’s a troll, plain and simple.

            • @[email protected]
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              13 months ago

              The world has gone topsy turvy. It is anti-Semitic to ban Jews from renting your equipment, regardless of the reason (maybe if it’s made out of pork). It is not anti-Semitic to a) read the ski shop’s implication and follow it; b) think Israel should stop bombing Gaza. The other person is definitely arguing in bad faith now, but it’s a valid point to say that if the ski resort wants to make an accusation it should be specific.

              This is not a response just to you, it’s just that I feel like Jews are getting politicized because of Israel, and it feels so dangerous.