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    210 months ago

    Just a recent primer on how ecology and evolutionary biology look at the question…

    https://pdf.sciencedirectassets.com/272099/1-s2.0-S0960982221X00218/1-s2.0-S0960982222012258/main.pdf

    Ecology and Evolution of Bird Sounds

    Interesting questions!

    I think the hardest methodological constraint to answering those questions is the difficulty of determining the intent of a bird. How in the world would we determine what the bird wanted versus what it was actually conveying?

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      210 months ago

      Thanks for the link, but unfortunately, I can’t get it to load anything other than science directs website. Do you have a link to the page before the pdf or something?

      It would indeed be difficult to get intent from a bird, or really from any animal. There is a bird, the blue throated hummingbird, that makes sounds at a higher frequency than its able to hear. Not exactly the same thing though.

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        210 months ago

        Thanks, yeah, this link works, I’ll check it out.

        I heard about the hummingbird in Ed Yong’s book, An Immense World. He said in there that the theory is that it is making such high songs(~30KHz), despite having a range of hearing that only goes up to about 8KHz, most likely due to the fact that the insects it eats is using high frequencies. I don’t know if they are actually attracting insects with it or just messing with their own communication or what. In general, that book by Yong was really good, it’s a decently in-depth look at all the different senses.

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        210 months ago

        That article was really good. It has a great list of related articles at the end as well. Thanks for sharing it! I’ve made it is own post.