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Estonia announced that the country may be forced to close its border crossing points with Russia due to increased migration pressures, Estonian Police and Border Guard announced on Feb. 13.
“In recent weeks, Russia has deliberately directed to the Estonian border groups of foreigners lacking the legal right to enter the European Union,” the statement reads. “If these activities continue, we will be forced to close border crossing points to protect national security and public order, as has already been done in Finland due to migration pressure.”
The Estonian government has noted an influx of migrants and asylum seekers from Russia over recent months.
holy russian propaganda Batman! The good old fairytale of the poor, poor russia that is opressed by the badies from the NATO. I’m out of this discussion comrade.
And what is your oppinin why they invaded Ukraine? Because they are naturally evil? Because they are stupid and thought they could just take it over without NATO helping them? I have no access to Russian media, it is not propaganda. It is common sense. There is absoultely no argument against it.
in the same post I critize Putin as a well and it is clear that it is not Russian propaganda. But it is classic of NATO propagada to claim that if you cirituqe their wars in middle east, you are a russian propagandist, even if you critique Russia as well. They of course do same thing in Russia, where they say anyone who critiques their government is CIA spy.
Being NATO warmongering propagandist and calling for more russians to be deinied assylum so that they have to fight in a war so you can kill them in the battlefielled and get another country into NATO is far more dangerous. It is clear, for anyone following wars around the World, that NATO is the most warmongering power that has control over the majarotiy of the World. And if Russian government didn’t own nukes, thay would be inavded by now as well and there would only be one central goverment for the entire World, run by US.
Again Russian goverment is just as bad in intentions, but their power is far less threatning that what NATO is doing. I fear that even if this war in Ukraine stops, even more wars get started by NATO around the World and this planet is forever trapped in a constant state of warfare.
😂 “common sense” and “absoultely no argument” he says…holy fuck give me a fucking break 🤣
Here start reading comrade and please take your fucking time, because you are just repeating the bullshit of those russian dipshits without leaving any valid source.
https://www.dw.com/en/fact-check-russias-disinformation-campaign-targets-nato/a-64675398
https://www.baks.bund.de/en/working-papers/2016/russias-myths-about-nato-moscows-propaganda-ahead-of-the-nato-summit
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/115204.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_in_Russia
https://globalvoices.org/2022/06/27/understanding-the-damaging-effects-of-russian-propaganda-against-nato-and-kosovo/
Literarly from the first article: “There is some truth to this. Since the collapse of the Soviet Union, 14 Eastern European countries have joined NATO, four of them bordering Russia. Ukraine requested the chance to join via NATO’s Membership Action Plan in 2008, and the country’s initiative to join has only intensified since Russia’s invasion.” In the rest of the article they don’t debate about this being a reason for invasion, just claim that some Putin claims that are lies and exagarations (which of course they are, he is a politician). I will not spend time reading other articles since even the first one is clearly irrelevant and strawman, because some lies doesn’t mean the whole motivation of fear from NATO is not true. Also there is no other reasonable motivation.
And third link is literarlly from NATO website, its like giving link to Kremlin offical website for arguments against NATO. In which one of the first things that I saw was a obvious lie that NATO is not agressive, which you would have to be living under a rock not to know what NATO states are doing in middle east and millions of civilians they kill.
So as I said, you are a clear NATO warmongering propagandist.
That part must slipped your propaganda infested mind so be so kind and fuck off comrade, I’m done with you.
If you insult when you are clearly exposed and with clear arguments shown to be wrong, you are showing not only bad intentions, but inability to accept a critique. I didn’t escalate this disscussion, you are the one that said to me that I am spreading propaganda. I proved i to be other way around and you can’t take the same insult that you unkustifiably directed at me, even though in your case it is true. Calling other people what you are is classic case of projecting your own problems.