Most of the routes seem ridiculous to me. Uptown is the obvious choice for ridership due to UC. The NKY routes would have high ridership, but the actual path they have laid out makes no sense. All the other ones are a play for neighborhood improvement not ridership. Though the camp washington one could get a ton of ridership if it was extended to the Northside Transit center, this would tap into a huge park and ride resource, and the highest traffic bus stop in the city.
It seems like every other Transit plan in the city, it’s built around a few peoples preferences rather than looking at our transit system wholisticly.
I think part of the problem is- we really need actual mass transit here. Like light rail and more than just 2 BRT routes.
These routes seem like good ideas for a more European city who already has mass transit built in and servicing most people in the metro. Then expanding a streetcar and such makes more sense and isn’t that far fetched.
But how would Hamilton county of 2024 vote for metro moves 2.0? I’m not sure.
Personally, I think the BRT was the right move (even if they kneecapped it’s usefulness as a commuter line by not extending the reading line up to GE). A quick and cheap way to make our transit exponentially faster and serve people better. I’m hopeful it can get through the bus stigma, and if it proves popular those routes will be prime candidates for light rail conversion. Expansion of the streetcar though? It still just feels like a novelty unless it actually goes somewhere. Make it connect park and ride stations to destinations across the city. Give it it’s own right of way or at the very least absolute signal priority (except for emergency services). Elevate it, or run it subgrade where necessary to keep its speed up. Having ridden the current iteration a ton, it seems like the ride from camp washington to the banks would take around 45 minutes, which is not even competitive with the bus.
Most of the routes seem ridiculous to me. Uptown is the obvious choice for ridership due to UC. The NKY routes would have high ridership, but the actual path they have laid out makes no sense. All the other ones are a play for neighborhood improvement not ridership. Though the camp washington one could get a ton of ridership if it was extended to the Northside Transit center, this would tap into a huge park and ride resource, and the highest traffic bus stop in the city.
It seems like every other Transit plan in the city, it’s built around a few peoples preferences rather than looking at our transit system wholisticly.
I think part of the problem is- we really need actual mass transit here. Like light rail and more than just 2 BRT routes.
These routes seem like good ideas for a more European city who already has mass transit built in and servicing most people in the metro. Then expanding a streetcar and such makes more sense and isn’t that far fetched.
But how would Hamilton county of 2024 vote for metro moves 2.0? I’m not sure.
Personally, I think the BRT was the right move (even if they kneecapped it’s usefulness as a commuter line by not extending the reading line up to GE). A quick and cheap way to make our transit exponentially faster and serve people better. I’m hopeful it can get through the bus stigma, and if it proves popular those routes will be prime candidates for light rail conversion. Expansion of the streetcar though? It still just feels like a novelty unless it actually goes somewhere. Make it connect park and ride stations to destinations across the city. Give it it’s own right of way or at the very least absolute signal priority (except for emergency services). Elevate it, or run it subgrade where necessary to keep its speed up. Having ridden the current iteration a ton, it seems like the ride from camp washington to the banks would take around 45 minutes, which is not even competitive with the bus.