This is about the most recent version of LibreOffice on Windows 10. I can’t speak for other versions.

My daughter worked hard on her social studies essay. I type things in for her because she’s a really bad typist, but she tells me what to write… but I didn’t remember to manually save her social studies essay yesterday, and for some reason the ThinkPad rebooted, LibreOffice crashed and we lost the whole thing… because autosave was not automatically on when I installed it.

No, recovery didn’t work. We just got a blank file.

I rewrote it for her based on the information we had and what I remembered and tried to make it sound like what a 13-year-old would write because it was basically my fault and she did do the work. I did have her sit with me as I wrote it in case she didn’t like something I wrote, but it was sort of cheating. I’m okay with that cheating since I know she worked hard on it.

First, though, I went into the settings and turned on autosave.

I like LibreOffice, but why the hell is that not on automatically? Honestly, I don’t really understand why someone wouldn’t want their documents autosaved, but I’m pretty sure most people would want that.

This isn’t fucking 1993. I shouldn’t have to remember to save a document anymore and it shouldn’t be lost forever because of it.

Like I said, I like LibreOffice. I don’t really want to trust documents to Microsoft or Google. But this was really annoying.

  • Primarily0617
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    yet very different

    which is why my first words to you were “it is and it isn’t”

    binning them into the same category is not helpful

    both are caused by people in the foss space not paying enough attention to ux

    increased attention to ux could solve both

    personally i think categorising all work solely through the lens of severity is unhelpful

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      9 months ago

      risk mitigation definitely comes before preference, whether you call them both UX or not

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        19 months ago

        or i could argue that an issue 90% of people will run into is a higher priority than one 2% of people will run into

        or i could argue than the risk of accidentally opening something you didn’t want to is higher than the risk of losing unsaved work

        the reason foss sucks when it comes to ux is this attitude of insisting that ux problems are somehow some “other” category of problem, rather than an engineering constraint that needs to be designed around like every other one

        case in point, for some reason you’re still refusing to acknowledge that they’re both ux problems. and if you do, your original reply ceases to even make sense.

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          you’re still refusing to acknowledge that they’re both ux problems

          I’m not - I’m saying calling them both UX problems is unhelpful when one is clearly more important than the other. In fact, single clicks by default does not even rank as a “UX problem”, it’s preference and habit.

          If you’re unable to differentiate what’s an actual problem from what’s mere user preference, you’re no better at judging what’s worth putitng time into than the open source contributors you’re pointing at.

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            19 months ago

            if you aren’t refusing to acknowledge they’re ux problems, you’re saying it’s unhelpful to call them what they are, which is obviously nonsense

            and again, sane defaults are ux

            • Eager Eagle
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              9 months ago

              Naming something accurately does not make the observation helpful. You’re the one writing nonsense.

              • Primarily0617
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                19 months ago

                if you’re just going to take us back in circles again this discussion is a bit pointless, isn’t it?