I think the disconnect here is coming from the vague “bad things” and “dragging people from their homes.”
To me dragging people from their homes conjures up images of Krystalnacht, when the nazis dragged people from their homes for ideologically disagreeing. Ideologically disagreeing isn’t “bad things” enough for me to justify murder, thus why I think the nazis did the “bad things,” to which the response wasn’t dragging nazis from their homes, it was all out war against uniformed combatants and the violence was justified. We did however drag many Japanese Americans from their homes during that same war and put them in camps, which I also think was a bad thing.
So what “bad things” justify political violence? To me, basically genocides/pogroms and that’s it. To others it may (and does) mean “wrong opinions” but imo Ideological “first strikes” just make you the “bad guy.”
Don’t want to be the uhm actually guy, but Kristallnacht is the term used in Nazi propaganda. Reichsprogromnacht or the Novemberprogrome / november progroms is the preferred word.
Maybe authoritarians dragging you from your home to execute you is a little different from WW2. I do see some similarities tho, the Nazis would drag you from your home for not being far right enough.
I think maybe, just maybe, mayyyyybe, a political movement mass murdering the folks they consider ideologically impure might be bad.
Idk tho, I drink a lotta vodka and whiskey, so my utter contempt, disgust, and loathing for murderous ideologues might be a mere ghost. Perhaps I’ll wake up sober tomorrow and decide slaughtering people because they don’t kiss my preferably-colored boot sloppily enough is actually really based, who knows
Yay murdering people over ideology, this has never been a bad thing!
Murdering people for harming others, more grey.
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I think the disconnect here is coming from the vague “bad things” and “dragging people from their homes.”
To me dragging people from their homes conjures up images of Krystalnacht, when the nazis dragged people from their homes for ideologically disagreeing. Ideologically disagreeing isn’t “bad things” enough for me to justify murder, thus why I think the nazis did the “bad things,” to which the response wasn’t dragging nazis from their homes, it was all out war against uniformed combatants and the violence was justified. We did however drag many Japanese Americans from their homes during that same war and put them in camps, which I also think was a bad thing.
So what “bad things” justify political violence? To me, basically genocides/pogroms and that’s it. To others it may (and does) mean “wrong opinions” but imo Ideological “first strikes” just make you the “bad guy.”
Also, in Germany as well it wasn’t just against uniformed combatants.
Don’t want to be the uhm actually guy, but Kristallnacht is the term used in Nazi propaganda. Reichsprogromnacht or the Novemberprogrome / november progroms is the preferred word.
My mistake, TIL. It’s the word they used in school when they taught about it so it’s all I knew.
This guy clearly wants the monarchy back.
You think people defeated the Nazis with just words?
Maybe authoritarians dragging you from your home to execute you is a little different from WW2. I do see some similarities tho, the Nazis would drag you from your home for not being far right enough.
I think maybe, just maybe, mayyyyybe, a political movement mass murdering the folks they consider ideologically impure might be bad.
Idk tho, I drink a lotta vodka and whiskey, so my utter contempt, disgust, and loathing for murderous ideologues might be a mere ghost. Perhaps I’ll wake up sober tomorrow and decide slaughtering people because they don’t kiss my preferably-colored boot sloppily enough is actually really based, who knows