• @HauntedCupcake
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    -19 months ago

    So are techbros just software devs? I’m unsure what it means now. I thought it referred to the bitcoin/venture capitalist types

    • @[email protected]
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      149 months ago

      No, that is not what I meant. Not all software devs are techbros at all. Techbros are people characterized by their romanticization of computing history viewed through a corporatist lens; an obsession with IT and Fintech megacorps and trend-du-jour bandwagons like blockchains or AI; a façade of laid back trendiness; business ideas based on rent-seeking and value extraction; or attempts to minimize, excuse and deny the deep-seated misogyny and racism within startup and tech corporate culture.

      What I’m saying is that there is a certain prestige (albeit a steadily diminishing one) associated with the technical professions, paricularly software development, and the venture capital types are taking advantage of that fact by acting as if their wealth is built on their technical talents (e.g. Paul Graham appointing himself and his news site as champions of hacker culture or Elon Musk attempting his out-of-touch idea of code review).

      The idea was that if you hated both techbros and actual computer nerds, you could help ruin that prestige by taking a page from the VCs themselves (Airbnb in particular being an Y Combinator startup). Make everyone an “independent contractor”, shift the ever-accumulating capital expenditure on them, make the crabs drag each other back into the bucket and position yourself as the purely extractive middle man. See how the techbros like it when you do it to their little sacred cow industry.

      And as @froztbyte points out, some of this has already happened. I’m just trying to imagine the cognitive dissonance of pretending you’re a genius programmer while also believing (even celebrating) that LLMs will replace software developers.

      • @HauntedCupcake
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        9 months ago

        Thank you this is also a great answer, I still disagree, but I think it’s just on an emotional level and you’ve given me a lot to think about.

        Apologies if I’ve come across as combative or rude, I’ve come from my “all” feed and I’m not as familiar with your arguments and terminology as I should be.

        Thank you again for your post

    • raktheundead
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      119 months ago

      The term includes those devs who carry water for the Silicon Valley vulture capitalist crowd as well.

      • @HauntedCupcake
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        -29 months ago

        Thank you, I feel that’s blurring the lines in a way I’m not happy with. But I appreciate your answer and the time you took to write it