I’m sorry but the level of violence in this article goes beyond someone losing their temper because of life circumstances . These were premeditated actions, and suggests to me a psychopath beyond reform.
I think what @[email protected] was getting at was that we need to help people, especially men, to prevent them from becoming “a psychopath beyond reform”. Simply put, addressing the upstream problem
I know what they meant. I just disagree. Some people are just inherently fucked and intervention won’t always work. There are bad seeds out there unfortunately and ignoring this fact with wishful thinking won’t make it to away.
It only shows a tendency towards being psychopathic. Still it’s not like we can’t get to these people early. It’s quite unfair and your position would be different if you were born with these traits. It should be noted, that that study did not test genetics in isolation with environment also being a factor.
Well going back to your question, you asked whether people are born evil. The question was framed incorrectly. Which is why I responded with some people really are born with certain disposition.
You believe this can be overridden in all circumstances. I do not. You can try but it’s very dangerous to believe without a doubt this is true.
I haven’t made one. My point still stands. This level of premeditated violence that was not done under duress (i.e. literal or metaphorical gun point) was an act of complete free will and are the actions of a psychopath.
Short of a lobotomy or extremely strong psychiatric drugs some people are beyond reform.
It’s amusing that you come across as directing your hostility to me on the Internet, which I’m sure you will deny. I’m not the one burning people here while their kids watch.
I’m sorry but the level of violence in this article goes beyond someone losing their temper because of life circumstances . These were premeditated actions, and suggests to me a psychopath beyond reform.
I think what @[email protected] was getting at was that we need to help people, especially men, to prevent them from becoming “a psychopath beyond reform”. Simply put, addressing the upstream problem
I know what they meant. I just disagree. Some people are just inherently fucked and intervention won’t always work. There are bad seeds out there unfortunately and ignoring this fact with wishful thinking won’t make it to away.
So you believe that some people are just born evil?
Evil is a subjective term, but I believe traits of a psychopath are heritable and studies do support this.
https://www.sciencefocus.com/the-human-body/can-people-have-a-genetic-predisposition-towards-being-evil
It only shows a tendency towards being psychopathic. Still it’s not like we can’t get to these people early. It’s quite unfair and your position would be different if you were born with these traits. It should be noted, that that study did not test genetics in isolation with environment also being a factor.
I don’t mean to sound disrespectful, I just think it’s naive to think that early intervention is the magic bullet in all cases.
It’s like saying all paedophiles can be reformed.
If you can point to concrete empirical evidence that proves this, I would like to see it. I’ve not seen or heard of any myself.
You know full well that cannot be done in any circumstance for any argument based on science, this kind of reasoning is only valid in mathematics.
Well going back to your question, you asked whether people are born evil. The question was framed incorrectly. Which is why I responded with some people really are born with certain disposition.
You believe this can be overridden in all circumstances. I do not. You can try but it’s very dangerous to believe without a doubt this is true.
The violence goes well beyond what you believe can be caused by life circumstances.
There is a lot of evidence that “normal” people can do horrific things.
Your refusal to believe that a person could do this, and not just some monster, says a lot about your life. You should be thankful for that.
Uh huh. You know absolutely nothing about my life and what I’ve been through so if I were you I’d be very careful about making assumptions.
Then why aren’t you more careful making assumptions about others?
I haven’t made one. My point still stands. This level of premeditated violence that was not done under duress (i.e. literal or metaphorical gun point) was an act of complete free will and are the actions of a psychopath.
Short of a lobotomy or extremely strong psychiatric drugs some people are beyond reform.
It’s amusing that you come across as directing your hostility to me on the Internet, which I’m sure you will deny. I’m not the one burning people here while their kids watch.
Your assumption was that people who commit domestic violence are “psychopaths”.
This is not true in the overwhelming majority of cases.
If I was being hostile to you it would be far more obvious. I have been short, maybe a little condescending, but not even remotely hostile.
And neither am I???