It is when it’s a tool for the hacking community by the hacking community. This is NOT an end-user program. This is a tool made for OSINT, a crucial step in social engineering.
The hacking community is not going to budge on its culture for skiddies. It never has and never will. If you don’t understand what’s going on, the tool probably isn’t made for you.
If you don’t understand the technical implications, it is very dangerous for you to be fucking around with hacking tools, both on a technical and social level.
Edit to add: the hacking community is very different from the regular open source community. They do not want people who DGAF about technology or security barging in.
They do not want to make ‘destroy a persons life’ buttons for some random twat to push without thinking. In this particular case, they do not want to be indirectly responsible for some DV twat literally ending their spouse. The computer knowledge barrier is far from perfect but it’s enough to get in the way of most of the worst would-be abusers.
yes. I am not sure how beggars became such strong choosers, but it’s very distasteful.
the program was written for the command line, for command line users, and for absolutely free. if you are not comfortable with the command line, you are perhaps not the target audience for the tool. you are not entitled to force hobby developers to build things in the way you prefer so you can use it the way you want to use it. they built it the way they like it. their opinions of their own project are the only ones that matter.
if you don’t like how the software works (that someone made for you for free with their own time and is now allowing you to use it), make it yourself. if you can’t, learn what you need to learn to use it or modify it… or stop complaining.
yeah, pretty much. using your computer is entitled. don’t like that you have to run around and fiddle with a bunch of shit all the time to get your computer to work, or to use a nintendo switch controller on windows 10? too bad, that’s just how shit is now.
More realistically I think they’re just frustrated because a lot of them are legacy user kind of dudes that have been forced to learn a bunch of technical shit in order to do relatively basic things, or learned such in the past, and then kind of expect that to be the default standard, when realistically most people are just going to want to hit one, maybe two buttons and have something just work straight out of the box, because most people aren’t IT guys and have other shit going on in their lives. They have their reasons for technical understanding being a kind of goal, right, like, oh, this increases your knowledge of your computer as something you interface with on the daily, oh, it’s probably good if you know how to do this generally, oh, you have to know how to do this because nobody else is going to do that for you.
But then that all ends up being bullshit, because some corporation will come along, scoop up the uneducated userbase of all the larger profile vacuums in the space, generally, and then the corporation will provide them with like, the single button that does everything, in return for destroying any semblance of user privacy and totally ruining the modern internet and every facet of it by plugging monetization in every orifice they can think of. And then you’ll get a bunch of people who complain that all the oxygen in the room is getting taken up by a huge corporate interest, so it’s impossible to make competing standards, and how they no longer have any privacy, and how the users nowadays are just so stupid. They’re completely faultless in all of this, of course, since they’re tech-literate, and jesus smiles upon the tech-literate, even when they’re being honestly just kind of mean and gatekeepy.
Realistically they just kind of retreat to their annals, right, to the smaller spaces that don’t have corporate interest, until they interface with everyone else who’s using normal shit, and they kind of lose their minds because they’ve been living in an alternate reality they’ve kind of constructed and pruned, and not actual hell, where an ad is served to them every five minutes.
You would be surprised. There are a lot of wannabe hackers out there and many have the entitled attitude shown in OP’s posts.
Many of them are also completely alien to the command line as well. What are clear instructions to you and me may as well be Hylian to such skiddies.
I used to have a lot of old cybersec material from late 90s/early 2000s. A lot has changed since then but skiddies? They haven’t changed a bit.
I miss the days when the Kali community used to dunk on people asking basic linux questions because they had no idea what Debian is lol.
I remember some nicer dude in a forum telling newbies to use Linux permanently for at least a month before even trying to do anything with Kali.
Everyone else was bringing a metric load of roasts and Torvalds level of insults lmao.
Those still go on in certain places and omg the Kali Facebook groups xD
fellas is it entitled to want to install a program without learning the intricacies of the command line
It is when it’s a tool for the hacking community by the hacking community. This is NOT an end-user program. This is a tool made for OSINT, a crucial step in social engineering.
The hacking community is not going to budge on its culture for skiddies. It never has and never will. If you don’t understand what’s going on, the tool probably isn’t made for you.
If you don’t understand the technical implications, it is very dangerous for you to be fucking around with hacking tools, both on a technical and social level.
Edit to add: the hacking community is very different from the regular open source community. They do not want people who DGAF about technology or security barging in.
They do not want to make ‘destroy a persons life’ buttons for some random twat to push without thinking. In this particular case, they do not want to be indirectly responsible for some DV twat literally ending their spouse. The computer knowledge barrier is far from perfect but it’s enough to get in the way of most of the worst would-be abusers.
Yes if its a free program designed to run on the command line
yes. I am not sure how beggars became such strong choosers, but it’s very distasteful.
the program was written for the command line, for command line users, and for absolutely free. if you are not comfortable with the command line, you are perhaps not the target audience for the tool. you are not entitled to force hobby developers to build things in the way you prefer so you can use it the way you want to use it. they built it the way they like it. their opinions of their own project are the only ones that matter.
if you don’t like how the software works (that someone made for you for free with their own time and is now allowing you to use it), make it yourself. if you can’t, learn what you need to learn to use it or modify it… or stop complaining.
yeah, pretty much. using your computer is entitled. don’t like that you have to run around and fiddle with a bunch of shit all the time to get your computer to work, or to use a nintendo switch controller on windows 10? too bad, that’s just how shit is now.
More realistically I think they’re just frustrated because a lot of them are legacy user kind of dudes that have been forced to learn a bunch of technical shit in order to do relatively basic things, or learned such in the past, and then kind of expect that to be the default standard, when realistically most people are just going to want to hit one, maybe two buttons and have something just work straight out of the box, because most people aren’t IT guys and have other shit going on in their lives. They have their reasons for technical understanding being a kind of goal, right, like, oh, this increases your knowledge of your computer as something you interface with on the daily, oh, it’s probably good if you know how to do this generally, oh, you have to know how to do this because nobody else is going to do that for you.
But then that all ends up being bullshit, because some corporation will come along, scoop up the uneducated userbase of all the larger profile vacuums in the space, generally, and then the corporation will provide them with like, the single button that does everything, in return for destroying any semblance of user privacy and totally ruining the modern internet and every facet of it by plugging monetization in every orifice they can think of. And then you’ll get a bunch of people who complain that all the oxygen in the room is getting taken up by a huge corporate interest, so it’s impossible to make competing standards, and how they no longer have any privacy, and how the users nowadays are just so stupid. They’re completely faultless in all of this, of course, since they’re tech-literate, and jesus smiles upon the tech-literate, even when they’re being honestly just kind of mean and gatekeepy.
Realistically they just kind of retreat to their annals, right, to the smaller spaces that don’t have corporate interest, until they interface with everyone else who’s using normal shit, and they kind of lose their minds because they’ve been living in an alternate reality they’ve kind of constructed and pruned, and not actual hell, where an ad is served to them every five minutes.
Not in the linux world they aren’t, the entire community is built on entitlement and elitism.
If you can’t ‘be on their level’, they don’t want to even know you exist.
I have been working in IT 3 decades and I’ve NEVER had a more hostile forum thread than just trying to get help in a linux forum for gpu drivers.
15 day old account shitposting about Linux entitlement called “mods_are_assholes”
We got a ban-evading wannabe skiddie, boys.
Nice harassment campaign, let’s see what the admins think about it.
Dude, just rtfm (jokes)