The point was to have lots of different places, so if you don’t like the rules of one, you can go to another.
It’s the freedom of choice to choose what communities you want to be a part of, not the freedom to say whatever you like with no regard to other people in the community.
Having safe spaces in the public square is fine so long as nobody is trying to turn the whole of the public square into one. I see the value if an instance wants to wholesale ban all negativity so as to create a island of positivity in the ocean of discontent, for one example. My objection was only to the implication of terms pertaining to the whole of the public square.
The censoring is a local setting, meaning the actual data in the database is untouched. It’s only being censored at user level. But yes, any instance being viewed though that instance’s web app is being censored.
There may be an option to turn it off. Look in your user settings.
Yeah of course, I’m not talking about “free speech absolution!” or any other Elon Musk bullshit, just freedom from the disingenuous nannying of corporations and the need to be “advertiser friendly.”
I, of course, understand the point and merits of instanced federation, but I think it’s still okay to speak in wide generalities when more specific language isn’t needed.
My point isn’t that instances shouldn’t be allowed to censor however they see fit, of course they should, my point is that the “default” censorship of much of the internet has nothing to do with merit or conduct or even morality and is instead almost entirely catering to advertisers so we shouldn’t embrace said “default” censorship.
Censors? I thought the point of leaving corporate sites like Reddit was to avoid the corporate-nannying.
Don’t be an asshole to others, yes, but straight policing of language is bullshit
The point was to have lots of different places, so if you don’t like the rules of one, you can go to another.
It’s the freedom of choice to choose what communities you want to be a part of, not the freedom to say whatever you like with no regard to other people in the community.
What is the reason for a federated instance that censors words? Does it censor words from other instances?
Having safe spaces in the public square is fine so long as nobody is trying to turn the whole of the public square into one. I see the value if an instance wants to wholesale ban all negativity so as to create a island of positivity in the ocean of discontent, for one example. My objection was only to the implication of terms pertaining to the whole of the public square.
No, I understand that. My issue was more of a technical one. Unless the instance can ban all swearing in other instances, I don’t see the point.
Ah gotcha. Yeah I’m not tech-savvy enough for that inquiry, sorry for misinterpreting your point ✌
No worries. Someone else answered- yes, they do censor all other instances for readers.
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The censoring is a local setting, meaning the actual data in the database is untouched. It’s only being censored at user level. But yes, any instance being viewed though that instance’s web app is being censored.
There may be an option to turn it off. Look in your user settings.
I understand that. But does it apply to other instances you’re reading as well? Does it censor other instances for you?
Yes. Any instance you’re reading through your own instance’s web app.
So if I’m registered on Lemmy.ml, and have censoring turned on, and then browse to kbin via Lemmy.ml, the data from kbin will also be censored.
To drive the point home, I am registered on kbin. Kbin doesn’t have this feature. I can see everything posted here perfectly uncensored.
Interesting. Thanks for the info!
Yeah of course, I’m not talking about “free speech absolution!” or any other Elon Musk bullshit, just freedom from the disingenuous nannying of corporations and the need to be “advertiser friendly.”
I, of course, understand the point and merits of instanced federation, but I think it’s still okay to speak in wide generalities when more specific language isn’t needed.
My point isn’t that instances shouldn’t be allowed to censor however they see fit, of course they should, my point is that the “default” censorship of much of the internet has nothing to do with merit or conduct or even morality and is instead almost entirely catering to advertisers so we shouldn’t embrace said “default” censorship.
Lemmy.ml has censors built in, I think.