“We will continue to actively engage in the hard work of direct diplomacy on the ground until we reach a Final Solution.”

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    I’ve watched the party go so far right that I left it just by standing still

    Fucking when? How old are you? I keep seeing this and it’s just not true. Remember when many high profile Democrats were against gay marriage? I do! Remember when most Democrats were against student loan forgiveness? I do! Remember when most Democrats were against legalizing weed? I do!

    What issue in the Democratic platform has gone further right??

    (edited for grammar)

    • @[email protected]
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      39 months ago

      Economic issues, of course. Yes, politicians eventually follow any social issue that becomes popular enough. Democrats ran away from any real support of labor decades ago

      • Bibliotectress
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        Democrats ran away from any real support of labor decades ago

        Can you explain what you mean by real support? State level on the west coast where Democrats have the majority, they have been voting to increase minimum wage, make school lunch free for ALL students, increase social safety net programs, and run experiments with UBI. At a federal level, they’ve been supportive of unions and investing in massive infrastructure jobs to put more working class people back to work, including investments in green energy and most recently to fix/replace aging water systems, and tried to relieve student loan debt that is currently crippling two generations.

        I want them to ban corporations and international buyers from buying up single- family homes, rezone commercial areas for housing, and set limits on price gouging and corporate profits, but that needs to be done through Congress because the current Supreme Court will just say it’s unconstitutional and government overreach.

        I’m not at all happy with where we are, but I don’t see how this is the fault of Democrats.

        • @go_go_gadget
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          19 months ago

          44 Democrat senators, 36 Republican senators and Joe Biden signed a bill to block the rail strike. They’re all pro-corporate trash.

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      I break federal law every day when I go home and toke up so they haven’t changed their minds.

      They could have passed a law legalizing weed back when Obama had a majority in both house of congress.

      I am happy about gay marriage though

      • Bibliotectress
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        They could have passed a law legalizing weed back when Obama had a majority in both house of congress.

        Well I’m personally glad that they spent so much time on at least passing the ACA instead, but sorry, when was that again? Oh yeah, 15 years ago, before Democrats had largely started to be okay with weed (see my previous comment where I mentioned that shift left), and they only had a filibuster-proof supermajority for 72 working days. From the Wikipedia article:

        However, the Senate supermajority only lasted for a period of 72 working days while the Senate was actually in session.

        • NoIWontPickaName
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          19 months ago

          So they could have done that and passed true single payer instead of romneycare reskinned.

          They did not.

          They knew the power they had and how long they would have had it for and chose there to stop

          • Bibliotectress
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            What are you talking about? Democrats didn’t have the votes for single-payer even among themselves, and also Obama was trying to “heal the country” after massive discord over Iraq with George W. Bush by making concessions with Republicans (and he absolutely learned from that mistake when most Republicans still didn’t vote to pass it).

            You think every Democrat in Congress now is pro single payer? But there are a lot more now than there were 15 years ago! (I feel like I need to remind you of the plotline here: that Democrats are NOT moving further to the right, and you’ve yet to support that claim.)

            You’re either really young and don’t remember 2009/2010, or weren’t paying attention to the news back then. The ACA barely passed as it was, in an anxious-watching-vote-counts-on-CSPAN kinda way. You know who voted against it? Almost every Republican. But it sounds like maybe you want to vote for them instead because Democrats aren’t liberal enough for you?

            Maybe I have a different perspective as a woman that works in a school library.

            Not everyone has the luxury of a protest vote.

            • NoIWontPickaName
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              29 months ago

              Nope I want to vote for someone on the level of sanders, and I refuse to compromise anymore, I have been doing that since 2012.

              20,000 innocent people and us still supporting them is my line.

              You have two options: run someone that doesn’t support the genocidal actions take place, or decide that you guys can win without our help.

              We compromised enough, your turn.