• @Dehydrated
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    No, they only fucked CentOS, and they made RHEL proprietary last year. Since Ubuntu’s decline, Fedora basically took it’s place. It’s very stable but not extremely outdated, has great security, always supports the newest technologies like Flatpak, Wayland, Pipewire, etc., has good Desktop spins and constantly innovates. The next Fedora KDE release will even completely drop support for X11, which is a good step because it forces developers to adopt Wayland. They also have pretty good immutable spins like Silverblue, Kinoite and others. Other cool distros like Nobara and uBlue are also built on top of Fedora.

    • @[email protected]OP
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      1311 months ago

      Its not really proprietary. Developers get the code, and everyone that gets the binaries also gets the code. Thats GPL compliant.

      • @Dehydrated
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        1411 months ago

        To quote Software Freedom Conservancy:

        For approximately twenty years, Red Hat (now a fully owned subsidiary of IBM) has experimented with building a business model for operating system deployment and distribution that looks, feels, and acts like a proprietary one, but nonetheless complies with the GPL and other standard copyleft terms.

        • @[email protected]
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          611 months ago

          To quote both of you “nevertheless complies with the GPL and other standard copyleft terms”.

          Were you trying to prove his point?

          • @Dehydrated
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            211 months ago

            Obviously they comply with the GPL, otherwise they would get sued. But Red Hat acts exactly like a proprietary software company. That’s what the quote is trying to say.

      • @Dehydrated
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        611 months ago

        I know that it’s a joke, but find me a distro that doesn’t include any proprietary blobs.

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          511 months ago

          @Dehydrated this is my pet peeve everytime i try to discuss anything about linux someone interrupts me about how SOME COMPONENT is proprietary
          like yeah, the keyboard on the laptop is proprietary, so are all the ICs, come on…

          • @Dehydrated
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            811 months ago

            All the hardware is proprietary. The CPU, the ME in the CPU, the chipset on the mainboard, the BIOS, the RAM and SSD controllers, the TPM and everything else. Even the damn battery controller hardware and software are proprietary. It really doesn’t matter though.

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              511 months ago

              @Dehydrated the car i drive to work is entirely proprietary!
              but yeah, open source is awesome but not using something useful/good because of its license is just kinda shooting yourself in the foot IMO

          • @Dehydrated
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            111 months ago

            No, because Fedora DOES include proprietary blobs (for a good reason)

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                  011 months ago

                  Wait, you object to their feely-distributable firmware updates? Seriously? Without those, your CPU is vulnerable to exploits and known hacks.

                  • @Dehydrated
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                    211 months ago

                    Did you read my previous comment? I spscifically said:

                    No, because Fedora DOES include proprietary blobs (for a good reason)

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              111 months ago

              I mean we have a monolithic kernel, with every single line of code running as root, that contains proprietary garbage. Thats even worse than Windows if you ask me, where you can see the drivers processes, which means they are seperate processes.

              I will soon compile my own kernel, because I dont really feel good with running such a bloated piece of bad code on my standard intel laptop.