But are there any working examples? I know there were some attempts at creating communes in the US. It usually ended up by people arguing so much that the group dissolved, or a charismatic leader taking over, which lead to a whole bunch of abuse.
There are groups out there. Yes. Though for very good reason they aren’t very public about it. And yes, several have dissolved to squabbles or fallen to charismatics. Just because they might be more social minded doesn’t make them any less human. And therefore vulnerable to the same issues everyone is vulnerable too.
Quite honestly, I’ve often thought about the viability of a public project of the type. Crowd funding it’s start and staffing perhaps. Build out to a point of basic sustainment and expand, repeating. It could be done. But there will absolutely be violence from capitalists and those they influence. Should they believe their stolen hordes are threatened. Which is why those that have traditionally existed exist well below the radar.
Plenty of places in the world were doing just fine until the US interfered with endless sanctions and/or backing coups by those that would be more us capitalist friendly.
But are there any working examples? I know there were some attempts at creating communes in the US. It usually ended up by people arguing so much that the group dissolved, or a charismatic leader taking over, which lead to a whole bunch of abuse.
There are groups out there. Yes. Though for very good reason they aren’t very public about it. And yes, several have dissolved to squabbles or fallen to charismatics. Just because they might be more social minded doesn’t make them any less human. And therefore vulnerable to the same issues everyone is vulnerable too.
Quite honestly, I’ve often thought about the viability of a public project of the type. Crowd funding it’s start and staffing perhaps. Build out to a point of basic sustainment and expand, repeating. It could be done. But there will absolutely be violence from capitalists and those they influence. Should they believe their stolen hordes are threatened. Which is why those that have traditionally existed exist well below the radar.
Plenty of places in the world were doing just fine until the US interfered with endless sanctions and/or backing coups by those that would be more us capitalist friendly.
Coup can only work on centralized regimes, which, are supposedly not real communism.
But we can agree on one thing - fuck the foreign interference.