• Deceptichum
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    9 months ago

    As a non-American, I’m rather happy he leaked things about U.S. international spying. That was good.

    • @johannesvanderwhales
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      19 months ago

      Whether or not you think that information should be out there, protecting national security secrets was quite literally his job. Penalties for mishandling national security information are pretty clear, especially when you’ve been put into a position of trust. He then flees to one of America’s biggest enemies on the international stage. And do we really think that protection came without a price?

      Honestly I have real mixed feelings about Snowden. I do think Americans had a right to know about the domestic spying activities even if they weren’t entirely surprising (details had been leaked previously but we did not know the degree to which those efforts had been ramped up). But he openly and knowingly violated the law. He can’t have expected that to come without consequences. And he can’t fall back on principles if he’s not willing to face those consequences.

      • Deceptichum
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        29 months ago

        Sure, he risked his life and safety to get the information out,. That makes him a hero.

        As for breaking the law, he did his duty as a human and thats more important than upholding injustice.

        No one should have to “face the consequences” of authoritarians.

        • @johannesvanderwhales
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          19 months ago

          Who exactly are you referring to as an authoritarian? The Obama administration?

            • @johannesvanderwhales
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              19 months ago

              That sure seems like stretching the definition of that word to the point where it’s meaningless.

              • Deceptichum
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                29 months ago

                You think applying authoritarianism to a government as a whole is stretching the definition to being meaningless?

                Alrighty then.

                • @johannesvanderwhales
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                  09 months ago

                  No, I think applying it to governments which do not meet the definition of authoritarian makes it meaningless, particularly when there are real authoritarian governments that you can easily contrast to (like for example the one in the country Snowden fled to).