• @[email protected]
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    2010 months ago

    You didn’t ask the same question both times. In order to be definitive and conclusive you would have needed ask both the questions with the exact same wording. In the first prompt you ask about a number of deaths after a specific date in a country. Gaza is a place, not the name of a conflict. In the second prompt you simply asked if there had been any deaths in the start of the conflict; Giving the name of the conflict this time. I am not defending the AI’s response here I am just pointing out what I see as some important context.

    • @UnderpantsWeevil
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      310 months ago

      Gaza is a place, not the name of a conflict

      That’s not an accident. The major media organs have decided that the war on the Palestinians is “Israel - Hamas War”, while the war on Ukrainians is the “Russia - Ukraine War”. Why would you buy into the Israeli narrative in the first convention and not call the second the “Russia - Azov Battalion War” in the second?

      I am not defending the AI’s response here

      It is very reasonable to conclude that the AI is not to blame here. Its working from a heavily biased set of western news media as a data set, so of course its going to produce a bunch of IDF-approved responses.

      Garbage in. Garbage out.

      • @[email protected]
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        210 months ago

        The 2 things are not the same

        Russia a country invaded Ukraine a country.

        Israel a country was attacked by Hamas a terrorist group and in response invaded Palestine a country.

        • @unreasonabro
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          10 months ago

          Way to put the cart before the horse! The origin of the current war in the mideast is the creation of Israel after the second world war. You can’t deny the role of the original land theft in discussing the situation, though i’m sure you weren’t trying to.

          Imagine the King of England (now that we have one of those again) declaring Texas to be entirely the territory of Native Americans. What would white people do? And yet we act like the palestinians are unreasonable. Like, get fucked. It has nothing to do with racism of any sort and everything to do with all humans being pretty much worthless cunts. (Present company excepted of course. ;) )

          • @[email protected]
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            110 months ago

            That’s a valid point, but it’s not like the Jews never lived there, go far back enough and it’s a very different situation. That is what makes this entire conflict so difficult.

            That is why I think it’s good to just look at current events.

      • Ryan
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        110 months ago

        Because Ukraine has a single unified government excepting the occupied Donbas?

        Calling it the Israel-Palestine war would be misleading because Israel hasn’t invaded the West Bank which has a separate/unrelated Palestine government.

        To analogize oppositely, it would be real weird if China invaded Taiwan and people started calling it the Chinese civil war.