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“Will you vote for Biden in the 2024 election?” [Y/N]

  • Sybil
    8•10 months ago

    he wrote the usa patriot act and the crime bill. he stopped student debt from being discharged in bankruptcy. bill clinton pushed “welfare reform”. obama destroyed habeas corpus, murdering a us citizen without trial. kids-in-cages is an obama era policy. obama signed taarp.

    i don’t believe they do less damage at all.

    • @EldritchEnglish
      -2•10 months ago

      I believe that you believe that. But I also know that your belief in that doesn’t make it true. Whether or not one approves of Obama’s actions with drones overseas. Which for the record I don’t. He didn’t end habeas corpus. You are being hyperbolic and disingenuous. Despite my disproval of it. It was a one-time thing with some fairly decent justification behind it. That hasn’t led to any actual policy changes that could be pointed out.

      The Patriot Act per Wikipedia

      The Patriot Act was written by Jim Sensenbrenner.

      Completely unsurprising. You’re lying again. To be fair Biden did claim credit. Stupid liberal doin stupid liberal things.

      As far as TARP was concerned. Was there anything they could have realistically done that you would have approved of? No? Then why should we care what you think. Yes, tarp was a bit of a crock of shit. But unfortunately it was the best we were going to get and it was a good thing that we did get it ultimately.

      As far as blocking student loan debt from being expunged with bankruptcy. Yes, stupid liberal doing stupid liberal things. However, Biden is also been one of the most active pushing for forgiveness of student loan debt. Could you be any more fake or disingenuous?

      • HACKthePRISONS
        3•10 months ago

        everything they said was right. your accusation of disengenuity is itself bad faith. just because you don’t believe somebody could be to the left of Joe Biden and Barack Obama and Bill Clinton doesn’t make you right.

        • Sybil
          -4•10 months ago

          thank you

        • @EldritchEnglish
          1•10 months ago

          I pointed out that he claimed that. Seems you missed that part. Well if you were being genuine. But I don’t mistake you for being genuine. It isn’t recorded anywhere that I could find that he wrote it. Joe, Biden claiming that he did only means that he claims that he did. It doesn’t mean that he did.

          • HACKthePRISONS
            1•10 months ago

            this is another accusation of disingenuity that is, itself, evidence of bad faith engagement.

            • @EldritchEnglish
              -3•10 months ago

              Not at all. I’m simply pointing out the facts as recorded. Joe Biden made a claim. There is no record showing his claim to be true. Bad faith engagement is claiming that something is true without proof. Which you don’t actually have.

              I do think it’s possible that Biden may have had some input on the bill. But the fact remains that you all are absolutely arguing in bad faith. Misrepresenting the facts and evidence available.